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Seek a advise for undervoltage/alternator or battery

I get this message - 'under voltage/alternator or battery, switch consumers off'. The battery just changed a couple moths ago.

I am not sure the alternator issues or battery. Please advise. Thanks.

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Measure the battery when the car is off, it should read just a little over 12V. With the car running, measure the battery again and it should read between 13V-14V+-.2V.... odds are the voltage is below 13V if that's the warning you get and the alternator is not charging properly

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