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No Spark! I have a 90 4runner with the V6. Problem started when the voltage regulator crapped out and was charging at bout 22 volts. I replaced the alternator and all was good till bout 3 hrs later when it was if you turned the key off. The codes read 12 &14. I replaced the coil and ignitor box as well as the ECU. I changed the signal generator and the pickup coil in the distributor and adjusted them to the specs from the book. The settings are .008 to .016 in. All the used parts were from a running truck. All the parts including the ones from mine tested good. When I crank it all I get is just one spark as it starts to turn and thats it. Before this it ran just fine. Any ideas? Thanks Mike from BC

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    yadayada May 11, 2010

    those codes are for the ignition module, replace it.

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