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Eugene Moses Posted on May 08, 2017
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Ford expedition eddie bauer 5.4 v8 power sterring problems. new pump and new rack and pinion. all front end is good. why is the power steering still not functioning properly?

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Here are a few options.
1) There is such a thing as a collapsed power steering hose, either the high pressure or the low pressure.
2) Is the belt new? A belt can look new but slip if it is old and hard, and you may not notice it until you are driving the car, and therefore it is "invisible " to you.
3) If one of the ball joints, or one of the tie rod joints is "frozen", the steering can be "bad", and not work easily.
God bless your efforts.

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The power rack and pinion steering gear is serviced as a power steering short rack (3L547). The front wheel spindle tie rods (3280) and tie rod ends (3A130) are serviced individually. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • The power rack and pinion steering gear incorporates quick connect fittings for the power steering pressure hose (3A719) and power steering return hose (3A713) that allow the lines to swivel. This is normal and does not indicate loose fittings.
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Section 11-02: Steering System, Power 1997 Windstar Workshop Manual
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION Tie Rod End Steering Gear Installed
Removal
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11-02: Steering System, Power 1997 Windstar Workshop Manual
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION Steering Gear Removal
  1. Raise vehicle on a twin post hoist and remove wheel and tire assemblies. Refer to Section 00-02 .


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  1. Support vehicle with jackstands under front jack pads.
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  1. Remove front stabilizer bar (5482). Refer to Section 04-01 .
  1. Disconnect heated oxygen and catalyst monitor sensors.
  1. Support flex pipe.
  1. Remove bolts and disconnect flex pipe from the converter.
  1. Raise dash opening steering column opening weather seal (3513) (secondary) above the steering gear housing (3548).
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  1. Remove nuts from steering gear-to-front subframe retaining bolts. Remove bolts.
  1. Remove rear subframe-to-body retaining bolts.
  1. Lower twin post hoist carefully until rear of subframe (5R003) separates from body, approximately four inches.
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