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I do not have power to the front seats of 1991 164L alfa and suspect relay problem How do I choose which relay under the dash as there identity is vague

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  • olde4tyme Jul 23, 2009

    I need to know exactly where to find the seat relay among the 10 or so relays I see under the dash. Is someone familiar with this car available to answer?

  • olde4tyme Jul 23, 2009

    I cant read any of the small print in your response picture of the fuse-relay diagram so it doesent help. Could you point which relay/fuse if any to suspect in the picture for better identification ?

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Find here the descripton of the Alfa 164L fuseboxes:

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Check the fuse box under the hood, but most likely you have a shorted seat motor or the wiring to it..

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Most relay are the same colors. Many also provide the same resistance. Therefore, a hayes repair manual may be necessayry.

You can always test each one with an ohmmeter or multi-tester to see which ones give a reading

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