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Eec test recieved several lean codes monitor pids all fuel trim and
02 pids zeroed out #4 5 6 cylanders all dropping out.

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Have someone check the 02 sensor. Bank 2 sensor 1. Sounds like it may be acting a little funky.

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I have a PO171 code on my 1999 Jeep grand cherakee larado can You tell me how to fix it, Thank You.


  • Dale, code P0171 fuel system too lean
  • Possible causes
  • change fuel filter first, if it has not been done recently
RESTRICTED FUEL SUPPLY LINE
FUEL PUMP INLET STRAINER PLUGGED
FUEL PUMP MODULE
O2 SENSOR
O2 SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND
O2 SENSOR HEATER OPERATION
TPS VOLTAGE GREATER THAN 0.92 VOLTS WITH THROTTLE CLOSED
TP SENSOR SWEEP
MAP SENSOR OPERATION
ECT SENSOR OPERATION
ENGINE MECHANICAL PROBLEM
FUEL FILTER/PRESSURE REGULATOR (HIGH)
PCM
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2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee p0171

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P0171 System to Lean Bank 1

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Mar 11, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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What is Pc171 Code


It's P0171 & P0174 not Pc 171 & Pc174 ! The engine computer has detected a lean condition ! That mean's it's not getting enough fuel or has a vacuum leak , bad O2 sensor ! fuel pump getting weak . fuel pressure regulator weak !
P0171 - System to Lean (Bank 1) The Adaptive Fuel Strategy continuously monitors fuel delivery hardware. The test fails when the adaptive fuel tables reach a rich calibrated limit. Refer to Section 1 , Powertrain Control Software, Fuel Trim for more information. Air Measurement System
  • MAF sensor (contaminated, damaged, malfunctioning, etc.)
Fuel System
  • Fuel pressure regulator (leaking, malfunctioning, etc.).
  • Fuel filter plugged, dirty.
  • Fuel pump (weak, check valve leaking, etc.).
  • Leaking/contaminated fuel injectors.
  • Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel.
  • EVAP canister purge valve leaking (when canister is "clean").
  • Fuel supply line restricted.
  • Fuel rail pressure sensor (incorrect reading).
Air Induction System
  • Air leaks after the MAF.
  • Vacuum Leaks.
  • PCV system (leak, valve stuck open, etc.)
  • Improperly seated engine oil dipstick.
Exhaust System
  • Exhaust leaks before or near the HO2Ss (exhaust manifold gasket, mating gaskets, etc.).
EGR System
  • EGR valve tube/gasket leak
  • EVR solenoid vacuum leak
Secondary Air Injection
  • Damaged/malfunctioning secondary air injection system (mechanically stuck valve).
  • P0174 - System to Lean (Bank 2) The Adaptive Fuel Strategy continuously monitors the fuel delivery hardware. The test fails when the adaptive fuel tables reach a rich calibrated limit. Refer to Section 1 , Powertrain Control Software, Fuel Trim for more information. See Possible Causes for DTC P0171. See Diagnostic Aides for DTC P0171
View Freeze Frame Data to determine operating conditions when DTC was set. Observe LONGFT1 and 2 PID(s). Refer to Section 2 , Adaptive Fuel DTCs Diagnostic Techniques for more information.

Feb 12, 2015 | 2002 Ford Escape

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Codes 171 174 for 2005 suzuki verona l6 2.5 litre engine


ever give it a tune up this in the last 9 years.????
ah the 2.5, i have one too, the 2.5. and know it well.
i have the real FSM on this engine.
p0171 and p0174 (the zero counts) 02 reads lean, and LTFT slams to rail errors.

The FSM is clear, both banks are lean. BOTH is a key fact.
lean has many reasons, a mech , never just guesses why, there are 10 causes. or more.
what I do is get the engine fully hot.
Using any real scan tool (yes, you need a scan tool to fix all modern cars):
1: is the ECT showing over 180f +coolant temp? sure.
2: is the engine holding Closed loop at idle? no, fix that first.
3: i see LTFT , is trying to correct gloss lean. (bingo)
LTFT = long term fuel trim,
4: EGR cleaned, Does it leak.?
5: is the MAF dirty, the MAF sensor can go weak dirty and can cause low fueling , in FACT the MAF is the top fuel rate, device on this engine. 02 sensors are fine trim.
6: intake air leaks. any leaks cause lean.
7: low fuel pressure. for any reasons.

you posted only 2 codes.
and no driving symptoms, so ....????
loss of power WOT? wide open throttle?

the MAF is here.
http://www.fixkick.com/engine/2.5L%202004%20Tracker/25L-2004-engine.pdf

page 34 , see it in the TB?
suzuki dont sell it,
take it off, and gently from 12inches away (never dead close at straw tip)
spray CRC maf cleaner on it , let it sit 1min, repeat and put it back.
i thne look for intake air leaks. under the TB side.
TB to the intake, and the whole behind TB side.
ok no leaks there.
i then check fuel pressure with a REAL guage.

that is just a start. we can take this to any conclusion
based on all tests. so far. then more tests. if need be.
this is called DIAGNOSIS.

Sep 20, 2014 | 2005 Suzuki Verona EX

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Engine light on


P0171 ; Fuel Trim System Lean (Bank 1)
P0174; Fuel Trim too Lean (Bank 2)
fuel trim is system to modify injector pulse if system go lean it will go rich when the system is too much lean and is max.rich it code
look for 02 sensor bank 1 and 2 data
hope it helps

Mar 31, 2014 | 2003 Chevrolet Malibu

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P0421 : Warm Up Catalyst Efficiency Below Threshold 2001 v6 galant


this code marks a bad cat.
The ecu can get this wrong.
it means the rear 02 is reading oddly, Aka. the cat monitor (OBD2)
it can be a , bad 02 oxy sensor rear, bad fueling or spark.
Some smarter cars, can shut down the 421 monitor when, it detects other failures. I have such a car. but not all cars work the same here. it's best to take look to see if all things are good first.

if the engine has full power, it's not a broken up cat.
the cat back pressure can bet tested easy.
make sure there are not other signs, of trouble.
Is the 02 front holding closed loop at hot idle, and light cruise.?
if not check for exhaust leaks near either 02 sensor.
the front sensor sets AFR trim.
then check just that, look at LTFT, make sure its centered. nearer zero. not -40 or +40% out of wack. Long term fuel trim.
most cars run about -4% they naturally remove this much fuel from the rich side. It may be an air leak near the rear 02.
so look there for any cracks. near that area.

Aug 28, 2013 | Cars & Trucks

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Function of oxygen sensor?


It measures the oxygen in the exhaust system, for instance, if the fuel is to rich it sends values to the computer and the computer will adjust the fuel and timing to bring it back into perimeters

Jun 20, 2010 | 2003 Mitsubishi Galant

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My 97 mercury cougar xr7 is burning way too rich and is idleing rough.what can i do


Get a PCM test for fault codes. It could be an oxygen sensor or MAF sensor. Free test at AUtozone if check engine light is on.
Clean MAF sensor heated wires with carb cleaner by spraying seveal times. Do not brush it. Disconnect battery for 2 hours and then drive for 10 miles after hook up.

SERVICE TIP MASS AIR FLOW (MAF) DISCUSSION MAF sensors can get contaminated from a variety of sources: dirt, oil, silicon, spider webs, potting compound from the sensor itself, etc. When a MAF sensor gets contaminated, it skews the transfer function such that the sensor over-estimates air flow at idle (causes the fuel system to go rich) and under-estimates air flow at high air flows (causes fuel system to go lean). This means Long Term Fuel Trims will learn lean (negative) corrections at idle and learn rich (positive) corrections at higher air flows. If vehicle is driven at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) or high loads, the fuel system normally goes open loop rich to provide maximum power. If the MAF sensor is contaminated, the fuel system will actually be lean because of under-estimated air flow. During open loop fuel operation, the vehicle applies Long Term Fuel Trim corrections that have been learned during closed loop operation. These corrections are often lean corrections learned at lower air flows. This combination of under-estimated air flow and lean fuel trim corrections can result in spark knock/detonation and lack of power concerns at WOT and high loads. One of the indicators for diagnosing this condition is barometric pressure. Barometric pressure (BARO) is inferred by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) software at part throttle and WOT (there is no actual BARO sensor on MAF-equipped vehicles, except for the 3.8L Supercharged engine). At high air flows, a contaminated MAF sensor will under-estimate air flow coming into the engine, hence the PCM infers that the vehicle is operating at a higher altitude. The BARO reading is stored in Keep Alive Memory (KAM) after it is updated. Other indicators are Long Term Fuel Trim and MAF voltage at idle. NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE MAY ALSO BE USED TO DIAGNOSE VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE FUEL SYSTEM/HO2S SENSOR DTCs. Symptoms
  • Lack of Power
  • Spark Knock/Detonation
  • Buck/****
  • Hesitation/Surge on Acceleration
  • Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Illuminated - DTCs P0171, P0172, P0174, P0175 may be stored in memory
OBDII DTCs
  • P0171, P0174 (Fuel system lean, Bank 1 or 2)
  • P0172, P0175 (Fuel system rich, Bank 1 or 2)
  • P1130, P1131, P1132, (HO2S11 lack of switching, Bank 1)
  • P1150, P1151, P1152, (HO2S21 lack of switching, Bank 2)
OBDI DTCs
  • 181, 189 (Fuel system lean, Bank 1 or 2)
  • 179, 188 (Fuel system rich, Bank 1 or 2)
  • 171, 172, 173 (HO2S11 lack of switching, Bank 1)
  • 175, 176, 177 (HO2S21 lack of switching, Bank 2)
  • 184, 185 (MAF higher/lower than expected)
  • 186, 187 (Injector pulse width higher/lower than expected)
NOTE: DO NOT DISCONNECT THE BATTERY. IT WILL ERASE KEEP ALIVE MEMORY AND RESET LONG TERM FUEL TRIM AND BARO TO THEIR STARTING/BASE VALUES. THE BARO PARAMETER IDENTIFICATION DISPLAY (PID) IS USED FOR THIS DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE. ALL OBDII APPLICATIONS HAVE THIS PID AVAILABLE. THERE ARE SOME OBDI VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BARO PID, FOR THESE VEHICLES OMIT THE BARO CHECK AND REFER ONLY TO STEPS 2, 3, AND 4 IN THE DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE.
  1. Look at the BARO PID. Refer to the Barometric Pressure Reference Chart in this article. At sea level, BARO should read about 159 Hz (29.91 in. Hg). As a reference, Denver, Colorado at 1524 meters (5000 ft.) altitude should be about 144 Hz (24.88 in. Hg.). Normal learned BARO variability is up to ±6 Hz (±2 in. Hg.). If BARO indicates a higher altitude than you are at (7 or more Hz lower than expected), you may have MAF contamination. If available, Service Bay Diagnostic System (SBDS) has a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor that can be used as a barometric pressure reference. Use "MAP/BARO" test under "Powertrain," "Testers and Meters." Ignore the hookup screen. Connect GP2 to the reference MAP on the following screen. NOTE: REMEMBER THAT MOST WEATHER SERVICES REPORT A LOCAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED TO SEA LEVEL. THE BARO PID, ON THE OTHER HAND, REPORTS THE ACTUAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE FOR THE ALTITUDE THE VEHICLE IS BEING OPERATED IN. LOCAL WEATHER CONDITIONS (HIGH AND LOW PRESSURE AREAS) WILL CHANGE THE LOCAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE BY SEVERAL INCHES OF MERCURY (±3 Hz, ±1 in. Hg.). NOTE: BARO IS UPDATED ONLY WHEN THE VEHICLE IS AT HIGH THROTTLE OPENINGS. THEREFORE, A VEHICLE WHICH IS DRIVEN DOWN FROM A HIGHER ALTITUDE MAY NOT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE BARO VALUE IN KAM. IF YOU ARE NOT CONFIDENT THAT BARO HAS BEEN UPDATED, PERFORM THREE OR FOUR HEAVY, SUSTAINED ACCELERATIONS AT GREATER THAN HALF-THROTTLE TO ALLOW BARO TO UPDATE.

May 01, 2010 | 1997 Mercury Cougar XR7

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