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Re: where is the right hand front window relay and module...
All the windows motors are controlled through the same central module referred to as the BCM. So it is very likely you either have a defective window switch (unlikely) or a defective window motor or broken window lift regulator.
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the relay is part of the drivers door module located inside the door the common causes of the window inop is the motor brushes stuck or worn out try banging on the inner door armrest with your hand that will sometimes work if the brushes are stuck the other prob is wiring broken between a post and door around door hinge area
I drive a 2008 VE SSV 6LT Commodore Sports Wagon
I have current issue with Engine runs rough, Engine light ON. Traction Control Off
I have checked, plugs and leads which were replace September 2013 and swapped them also with identical car to no resolve
Hi, I'm figuring all four of your windows fail to roll down. On most foriegn and domestic passenger vehicles after say 1987, the electrical current between the car's battery, the door mounted power window switch and the window motor itself controlled by an electrical relay. On your 2007 Honda Accord, this relay is located under the hood in the engine compartment. It should be located on the passenger side next to the firewall and on top of the inner fender inside one of two control module boxes. You can identify a relay as compared to one of the high amp fuses by its shape ( a square, black or dark grey box about 1"x1"), Under the cover of the control module box you will find the legend of what's what. After you locate the "power windows" relay, it can then be tested to determine its servicability. Also you must check the integrity of the power window fuse located at the fuse panel in the front passenger compartment. Also connecting wiring can be checked for loose connections, burned insulation. Also its always a good idea to apply electrical silicone grease between the relay connections.
F1 Cartridge 20 Blue Dip beam, High Intensity Discharge (HID) light relay. F2 Cartridge 50 Red Ignition relay feed. F3 Cartridge 60 Yellow ABS. F4 Cartridge 30 Pink Rear window heater/heated mirrors relay. F5 Cartridge 30 Pink Automatic transmission control module relay. F6 Cartridge 30 Pink Heater blower relay. F7 Cartridge 50 Red Power supply to passenger compartment fuse box. F8 Cartridge 80 Black Blower module. F9 Cartridge 50 Red Engine management system power relay. F10 Cartridge 20 Blue Headlight power wash pump relay. F11 Mini Not used. F12 Mini Not used. F13 Mini 30 Green Heated front screen right-hand side. F14 Mini Not used. F15 Mini 30 Green Heated front screen left-hand side. F16 Mini 20 Yellow Left-hand dip beam, day time running lights, autolights. F17 Mini 20 Yellow Right-hand dip beam, HID lights. F18 Mini 20 Yellow Throttle motor supply. F19 Mini 15 Blue Screenwash pump, rain sensing system. F20 Mini 5 Tan Navigation display. F21 Mini 15 Blue Side (Parking) lights. F22 Mini 20 Yellow Accessories relay. F23 Mini 10 Red Air conditioning compressor clutch. F24 Mini 15 Blue Door lock power. F25 Mini 15 Blue Direction indicators (GEM). F26 Mini 15 Blue Horns. F27 Mini 10 Red Automatic transmission control module, transit relay. F28 Mini 15 Blue Ignition switch. F29 Mini 30 Green Starter motor solenoid. F30 Mini 30 Green Accessory sockets. F31 Mini 10 Red Engine management relay coil. F32 Mini 5 Tan Engine management control. F33 Not used. F34 Diode D3 Not used. F35 Diode D2 Engine management control relay diode. F36 Mini 10 Red Canister purge valve, airflow meter, throttle motor relay, power wash relay, air conditioning relay. F37 Mini 15 Blue Engine management system, blower speed controller, road speed sensor (if fitted). F38 Mini 30 Green Oxygen sensor heaters A. F39 Mini 5 Tan Variable intake valves. F40 Mini 15 Blue Automatic transmission control module. F41 Mini 10 Red Injectors. F42 Mini 30 Green Oxygen sensor heaters B.
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Do you know anything about automotive electronic's ? Serial data Communication network ? Electronic module's inside the vehicle doors , communicate commands ! No relay ,no fuse .
If the passenger mirror is selected and a direction switch is activated, the DDM sends a serial data message to the PDS indicating that the passenger mirror was selected and the direction to be commanded. The PDS will then supply battery voltage and ground to the appropriate control circuits for the direction selected.
DDM - driver's door module
Door Lock System Components
The power door lock system consists of the following components:
• Driver door module (DDM)
• Passenger door module (PDM)
• Door lock relay--Located in the instrument panel (I/P) fuse block and controls the locking of the rear doors.
• Door unlock relay--Located in the I/P fuse block and controls the unlocking of the rear doors
• Body control module (BCM)
• IP BEC
• Reversible door lock actuators in each door
Power Window System Components
The power window system consists of the following components:
• Driver door module (DDM)
• Body control module (BCM)
• Passenger door module (PDM)
• Rear door power window switches
• Power window motors in each of the doors (circuit breaker protected)
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop that has a diagnostic scanner that can pull code's an view input data form these systems . There is one circuit breaker for the window's an fuse's for the lock's . I would think a data network problem . But that would be a guess , without testing anything is possible on these .
You have a power window relay located in the engine compartment in the very back right rear.
The window relay is the one in the very front on the inside. Sometimes there will be relay which are the same , only used for something else in the car. You can unplug it and try it in the place of the window relay. There is an integrated control module located inside on the driver's kick panel, it's the large box. But it relates to other circuits. Do not forget to check the fuses.OH! the power window switch. .The power, I believe is routed through the driver's door switch.
Good luck. Start with the fuses, then the relay, switch, connections. All the simple things first.
I had a hardtimefinding this informaton, hope it helps.
fuses Fuse link cartridge 2A Grey Grey — — — 3A Violet Violet — — — 4A Pink Pink — — — 5A Tan Tan — — — 7.5A Brown Brown — — — 10A Red Red — — — 15A Blue Blue — — — 20A Yellow Yellow Yellow Blue Blue 25A Natural Natural — — — 30A Green Green Green Pink Pink 40A — — Orange Green Green 50A — — Red Red Red 60A — — Blue — Yellow 70A — — Tan — Brown 80A — — Natural — Black
Passenger compartment fuse panel / power distribution box
The fuse panel is located below and to the left of the steering wheel by the brake pedal. Remove the panel cover to access the fuses.
To remove the fuse panel cover, turn the panel fasteners counterclockwise.
To remove a fuse use the fuse puller tool provided on the fuse panel cover.
The fuses are coded as follows.
Fuse/Relay Location Fuse Amp Rating Passenger Compartment Fuse Panel Description 1 15A* Adjustable pedals 2 20A* Power point -floor console 3 20A* Power point – 3rd row 4 20A* Power point -instrument panel 20A* Power point -right rear quarter 6 20A* Trailer tow turn/stop relay 7 30A* High beam headlamps / Flash to pass 8 — Not used 9 20A* Heated mirrors 10A* A/C clutch 11 20A* Radio (main) 12 20A* Cigar lighter / OBD II 13 5A* Power mirrors/switches 14 15A* Daytime running lamps 10A* Driver’s seat module memory 16 15A* Rear seat controller 17 15A* Exterior lamps 18 20A* Turn lamps/Brake on-off switch (high) 19 10A* Body security module/4x4 module — Not used 21 25A* Rear wiper motor 22 20A* Engine control 23 20A* Engine control 24 15A* Air suspension 10A* 4-Wheel Anti-Lock Brake System (4WABS) module 26 10A* Airbags 27 15A* Ignition switch Run feed 28 10A* EATC module module/Front blower relay coil 29 10A* Customer access
Fuse/Relay Location Fuse Amp Rating Passenger Compartment Fuse Panel Description 30 15A* Highbeam headlamps 31 15A* Clutch interlock switch 32 5A* Radio (start) 33 15A* Front wiper 34 10A* Brake on-off switch 35 10A* Instrument cluster 36 10A* PCM Keep-Alive 37 15A* Horn 38 20A* Trailer tow park lamps and backup lamps 39 — Not used 40 20A* Fuel pump 41 10A* Instrument cluster 42 15A* Delayed accessory 43 10A* Fog lamps 44 10A* PATS module, transceiver 45 10A* Ignition switch Run/ Start feed 46 10A* Left-hand lowbeam 47 10A* Right-hand lowbeam 48 10A* Rear wiper motor 101 30A** Trailer tow electric brake 102 30A** Door locks/Body security module 103 50A** Ignition switch 104 40A** Heated backlite 105 30A** Injector driver module 106 30A** Front wiper main 107 40A** Front blower motor 108 40A** Auxiliary blower motor 109 30A** Heated seats 110 50A** Ignition switch 111 30A** 4WD/Shift on the fly 112 30A** Left-hand power seats
Fuse/Relay Location Fuse Amp Rating Passenger Compartment Fuse Panel Description 113 30A** Starter motor 114 30A** Right-hand power seats 115 20A** Trailer tow battery charge 116 30A** Ignition switch 601 30A CB Door window motors 602 60A** 4-Wheel Anti-Lock Brake System (4WABS) module 210 — Not used 211 — Not used 212 — Not used 301 — Front blower motor relay 302 — Powertrain (EEC) relay 303 — Injector driver module relay (Diesel only) 304 — Heated backlite relay 305 — Trailer tow battery charge relay 306 — Delayed accessory relay 307 — Starter relay * Mini Fuses ** Maxi Fuses