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I cannot get my brake drum to go on after installing new brake shoes I have tried using the adjuster but still nothing .

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Ensure that you have the correct shoes for your vehicle. Some models may have two different sizes for that axles and if you get
the wrong size it may seem to fit, but won't go into the drum. If the shoes are correct, then you need to look at the drum itself. As the brake shoes rub the inside of the drum, they wear the drum down, leaving a raised ridge at the outside edge of the drum. This is what usually causes the issue of drums not going on. If adjusting the self adjuster all the way down to the smallest possible size won't work, then you need to take the drums to a mechanic and have them turned down to get rid of the ridge. It is usually recommended to turn the drums regardless, but they may be under minimum thickness and then would need to be replaced.

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The last answer is nonsense, make sure the adjuster wheel is all the way back, and the wheel cylinder is free, check that the handbrake lever on the shoe has fully returned to the off position, if it hasn't let the adjustment off on the handbrake cable & check cable is free the lever should now be returned fully in the off position, assuming the shoes are correctly fitted the drum will now go on, after this procedure I remove the drum and manually adjust the star wheel a little at a time until the drum is a sung fit on the shoes, but not too snug that it doesn't turn, once done re adjust handbrake cable to take up slack. Job now done properly
Posted on Dec 06, 2016

Posted on Dec 06, 2016

  • Terry Hair Dec 07, 2016

    Jim - You are free to provide your answer to the question, but refrain from the judgment calls about other answers. This guy gives no info on his vehicle - I have a truck that can have either 9-1/2 or 10 inch rear brakes. Try getting the 9-1/2 inch drum over a 10 inch set of brake shoes sometime. And as far as adjusting the brakes go, if you have a serious wear ridge on the shoes from age and miles, you'll never adjust the shoes up tight enough and still get the drum on - you would need to adjust the star wheel from the adjuster slot in the rear with the drum already installed - if the vehicle has one. But maybe you haven't ever worked on a vehicle with more than 150K miles on it. You're a noob here - we respect each other's opinions and answers unless they violate the TOS or are unsafe. Keep that in mind next time you voice YOUR opinion.

  • Jim Dec 07, 2016

    I've been in the motor trade over 35 years & worked on countless high mileage vehicles I'm sorry if I offended you, what I meant was nonsense was the ridge on the drum wouldn't stop it going on, after all the ridge would be the original dimensions of the worn drum, I should have mentioned to measure the wear on the drum to ensure it met the requirements for tolerance , if it does the ridge can be safely removed. If the drums had serious wear the guy would get the drums on no problem, as for the shoe size if you can't tell the difference you shouldn't be messing with the brakes.

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1.Remove rear wheel and tire assembly from vehicle.

2.Remove rear brake drums from hub and bearing assemblies after loosening the two brake drum screws.
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3.Be sure that the parking brake pedal is in the release(most upward) position.

4.Completely loosen square nut of the rear parking brake cable. Then create slack in the rear parking brake cables.
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REMOVAL & INSTALLATION
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Fig. Fig. 2: When using a brake adjustment gauge, first measure the inside diameter of the drum (top) and then adjust the brakes shoes to the proper outside diameter (bottom)

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    Fig. 4: View of the drum brake assembly with the drum removed
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    Fig. 5: Use a commercially available brake spray to clean the
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    Fig. 6: Detach the parking brake cable and conduit from the
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    Fig. 7: Lift the brake shoes, springs and adjuster off the
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    Fig. 9: Exploded view of the drum brake components, removed
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Rear brake shoe assembly


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  1. Using an appropriate brake spring tool, unhook upper return spring from rearward brake shoe.
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