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Horn not working-----Found strange reason.

95 Buck Le Sabre. Horn was not working. Finally found which fuse and relay is involved, but everything is ok. Went back and removed the air bag/radio controls/horn section of the steering wheel again, for a second look. Confirmed that there was a red and a black wire going to either side. The red wires left the steering wheel through a plastic tube, and the black wires are attached to a metalic clip that is clipped to the vinyle part of the steering wheel. This is apparently the ground for the horn, but it is NOT attached to any ground, nor can I find any reasonable source for a ground. There may have been a wire that entered the steering wheel through the same tube that the switched red wires did, but it is not there now. If I hold the clip with the black wires to the metal part of the steering wheel, and tap the horn, it works. I understand there was an issue with the horn blowing inintentionally, but if a ground wire was removed to stop that, it seems like a lot of work when removing the fuse would have been much easier, and easily reverseable.

So, my question is: Where is the ground source for the horn. I tried to see if there was a source inside the vinyl part of the steering wheel that this clip had made contact with at one time, but could not see anything without damaging the wheel.

My solution, albeit temporary, was to jam the clip between the vinyl and steel parts of the steering wheel. The horn is working now, but suspect that over time, the clip will work loose. I plan on installing a wire with a push on connecter to the clip, and then solder the other end to the metal part of the steering wheel.

Thanks for listening. If you have any insight on this, please enlighten me.

Ken Gasbarri

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  • kgasbarri Jul 21, 2009

    Don't know how to update this, but will try here. I have a friend with an identical car (except color). We tore his steering wheel apart, and on his, the clip in question was snapped into one of the bolt holes that I assume are there to attach a wheel puller. Got home, popped my steering wheel and moved the clip to where it should be. All is well

  • kgasbarri Jul 21, 2009

    Oh, and thanks Rob. I was looking for that screw, just never found one.

    Ken Gasbarri



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If there is a scre in there anywhere check if its an earth point if it is get a wire & a connector & wire it up !
shouldnt be too dificult just make sure it wont bind up anyhwere in there!
Cheers Rob.

Posted on Jul 20, 2009


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