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2005 Navagator will not go in reverse when a trailer is in tow. When backing up it is like the thansmission disengages and the engine loses power, when I push the gas pedel nothing. Also when the Advance Trac engages on an icey road the same thing happens.

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  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    Had is scaned at the dealership, no codes appeared. I understand the power reduction factor, but with the trac engaged or disengaged it goes to no power at all, it simply and totally quits, press the gas pedal nothing. Even the dealer has never seen this and does not know what to do about it.

    Thanks Bruce

  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    Yes, it tows just fine. Only when backing the trailer up it does run into the "no power" condition. Engine is ok, transmission I cannot say about, my unprofessional opinion is maybe the computer is reading off the back up sensors somehow causing this. I thought of trying disconnecting the sensors, but haven't tryed that yet, need to research more before trying that. Thanks

  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    Had is scaned at the dealership, no codes appeared. I understand the power reduction factor, but with the trac engaged or disengaged it goes to no power at all, it simply and totally quits, press the gas pedal nothing.

  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    The trans does engage and the thuck will back up for 5 to 10 seconds, than the engine looses power and goes to an idel with no response when you push on the gas pedal, no rpm increase or torque.

  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    Yes, I've had it at a Ford and a Lincoln dealer, taking it back again tomorrow w/ a trailer behind for them to see. I know this is a hard one to solve, thought I just maybe could learn more here as they have not been to solve the issue, yet I hope! Thanks for your response, I will mention the harness to them.

  • Bruce Smith Jul 14, 2009

    Yes Thank you

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Are you saying the trans doen't engage reverse at all? or does it just loose engine power? if the engine power is the problem only in reverse then the engine wiring harness is most likely the problem, it has an open when the engine torque lifts the engine, the power you ask the more movement, but 1st clarify the question about re gear engagement.

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    yadayada Jul 14, 2009

    HAVE YOU HAD THIS TESTED BY A FORD OR LINC DEALER WITH THERE SCANNERS? STILL THINK THAT YOU HAVE A WIRING HARNESS ISSUE, WITHOUT THE SPECIAL FORD ONLY SCANNERS AND OTHER SPECIAL TEST EQUIPMENT YOU WILL HAVE A HECK OF A TIME TRACING THIS DOWN, THIS IS A JOB FOR A REALLY SHARP DEALER ELECTRONIC CONTROL SYSTEM MECHANIC, THAT IS WHAT I DID IN THE 25 YEARS I WORKED FOR FORD.

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The traction control system is engaged when the system detects any type of tire and wheel slip. In the case of the ice issue, it would be normal for the system to reduce power to prevent the tires from slipping and allow you to move forward slowly.
If you are backing up and the tires begin to slip, the traction control system will engage and reduce power to prevent the slip, unfortunatly if you are towing a heavy load you may not beable to move. I would try disabling the trac control system when towing the trailer, that should take care of the problem for you.
If it continues after you have disengaged the trac system, you will want to have the vehicle scanned for codes. Auto Zone or Advance Auto will do the scan for you at no charge. Record the code numbers for future reference and re-post on this sight for further diagnosis.
Good luck, let me know.
Regards,

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  • Bruce Bracey
    Bruce Bracey Jul 14, 2009

    So it sounds like the vehicle pulls the trailer OK, only when backing the trailer up does it run into the "no power" condition.

    How heavy is the trailer? Have you pulled the trailer before with no problem?

    If I'm not mistaken your Navigator should pull a maximum of 8000 lbs with the appropriate drive train ( large V-8 and trailer towing gear ratio).

    Let me know.

    Regards.

  • Bruce Bracey
    Bruce Bracey Jul 14, 2009

    Was there a mistake or did you want to try someone else.

    Regards,

  • Bruce Bracey
    Bruce Bracey Jul 14, 2009

    Before you give up, try leaving the trailer harness disconnected from the vehicle and try backing up. At this point we don't know if you have a trailer brake issue or there is a problem with the Navigator.

    Good luck,

    Regards,

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