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I am having problems starting my car in the park position. When it doesn't start in the park position, I have turned the car switch on and moved the gear to neutral to start it. Now it seems to be getting worst. I have tried to troubleshoot the problem in Mercedes-Benz E-class Owner's Bible, but have not been able to find it. I think it is called a neutral safety switch. I would also need the location of it and installation instructions.

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  • delfive Jul 14, 2009

    Thanks for all your help and for providing me with a visual on the part.

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(electricity) An electric switch that is connected to the ignition switch of an internal combustion engine and prevents starting the engine unless the transmission shift lever is in the neutral or park position, or the clutch pedal is depressed.


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It is located on the transmission (underneath the car)

The switch looks like this...click on the link to see a picture of it:

http://www.thepartsbin.com/repsite/mercedes_benz~neutral_safety_switch~reparts.html

The wiring connector has a locking mechanism. Twist the white ring clockwise to unlock and then use a flat blade screwdriver to pop the connector off. It should be easy. Don't raise the engine, just fit a 10mm socket into the 2 bolts, loosen, and remove the switch..if you don't have small hands then you may have to remove the bolts from the flex disk and the engine mounting bolts, raise the engine so the tranny goes down to expose the switch A brand new neutral safety switch for you E320 will cost about $60

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