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When the tranny warms up second and third hits hard or it will shudder it has a new rebuilt tranny

The tranny guy says it is electrical issue he will look in to it this is the third time i took it back

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Too much trans fluid or new trans is not good

Posted on Apr 24, 2015

  • Roger Bunch Apr 27, 2015

    cant tell me the problem on the tranny?



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