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Regarding the shorted starter as the a/c compressor was being taken out.

From then on when you go in to turn the key to start the vehicle all it does it click. Yet the starter if you use a hand held switch, the starter will turn over perfectly but will not fire. So I have been told that the security system has not been violated so it's not that, but it does do this fuse box by kick panel. When you check fuses with a test probe light on fuse 19 and 25 both are registering low meter readings and as you ground your test light to body of van, to check fuses, the starter will crank. It will do this until it stops like it got too hot. After it has cooled off it can be done again. I have changed the ignition switch twice and still won't run.

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  • Charles Prose
    Charles Prose Apr 20, 2015

    I just wanted those trying to answer my question that I figured out what happened. The starter wire from the starter that runs back up through the system needed a ground. I had to go from the key switch, fuse panel and then traced it out to the fuse panel underneath the hood. It would feed back through hot and needed a ground wire somewhere. I touched the test light probe that was grounded the starter would start then. The final thing that fed it the ground was the computer. After you turn the key on the wire became hot but didn't have the ground to make it work.

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SOURCE: cars security light came on

Usually the security light means it can't read the chip in the key.. the little black chip at the base of the key.
Try using a spare key

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It's when the security light starts flashing that the infamous "chip" in the key becomes a nightmare to many. Gradually the car begins not cranking anymore or if it cranks it would start and die in a second. Randomly it will do this more and more often until it won't start anymore. VATS, PASSkey and Passlock immobilizer systems are killing cars all over North America, they have a short lifespan and are certainly more effective against owners than thieves. Here is how you save your car
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The diagram is a little hard to follow, but it looks like on the high fan relay there are 5 circuits like on the hi-low relay.
Pin 86 is power for the magnet, 85 is the ground signal from the module. The module grounds the magnet to move the contacts.
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SOURCE: won't turn over, battery good, no power coming through ignition wire at starter. Have checked fuses and changed relay and changed neutral start switch. Think ignition switch ok because crank fuse in c

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