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No spark to the coil replaced it and the crankshaft cencer still no spark

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Hello Stu
no engine options stated, there are 4 engines. we cant guess that.
all 4 spark plugs dead, ?????????????????????????????????????
we next use a scan tool,
plug it in, get comms.
then crank for 5 seconds,
release key.
then see why there is no spark (ecu cuts fuel if spark is missing)
use any scan tool.
Generic for all EFI cars made.
if all you want to do is guess. then nobody can help. you.
here is a short list
1: bad fuse (looks good but is not) 0v on one side. key on.
2: bad connections in the EFI system (spark related)
3: bad ECU, (nah) (I repair them)
4;bad coil
5: bad ignitor to coil.
6: bad CMP (cam sensor)
7; bad CKP sensor (if separate from CMP) depends on engine used.
8: bad wiring to any of above. bad connectors to any of above.


learn to use a scan tool and win over 90% of the time,
working spark or injector or A/T transmissions.
on 2006 and newer cars, even more true.
on newer cars the scanner can even tell you the fuse is blown
even though the mech thinks its good.
some fuse have hair line cracks, that cant be seen.

the Scan tool does report bad sensors, if you just look.
at all times !!!

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