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Alternator drops voltage on accel or when A/C is turned on. Leaning towards PCM if it controls output voltage from the alternator.

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I don't think a 97 is PCM controlled. What I would do is pull the alternator plug. Yours should be two wire(hot and ground). the third single wire plug is for the battery light or meter. Anyway. on the two wire plug check them for power, turn the ignition on and use a volt meter to find the power wire. The other is ground. The voltage should be close the battery voltage. Then I would check the battery grounds. From the battery negative side, there should be one to the engine and one to the body, then one from the engine to the body. These are the main grounds. If they are good, I would cut the ground wire at the alternator (about 4 inches) and run a new ground any where on the engine. This should take care of your voltage lose.

Posted on Apr 04, 2015

Testimonial: "We checked the alt. plug and it had 4 wires. We did however remove the three belts to the crank pulley and found that the outer belt groved ring turned freely from the inner housing. We replaced the harmonic pulley and the problem of the 'squeal' was gone. We did notice however that when the engine throttle was goosed, the voltage still went from 14.44 down to 13.39 (with the A/C on) but recovered bqck to 14.44 and no squeal. I still suspect the ECM plays a role in regulating the voltage from the alternator. Another problem for another day......"

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