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The passenger window switch does not operate.

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The vehicle is equipped with power windows controlled by the door modules. Each passenger door window can be operated, either from a switch built into the driver door switch assembly (DDSA), or from a switch mounted locally to its associated door. The driver door window can be operated only from the driver door window switch built into the DDSA.
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When a window is operated from the DDSA, the DDSA interprets the window switch signal as a specific window switch request and sends the information to the driver door module (DDM) via the power door serial data circuit. The DDM examines the request and checks to see if it has received any class 2 serial data messages from any of the other vehicle modules (i.e. ignition switch position) prohibiting the movement of the window. If the window being operated is the driver door window, and if no prohibitive class 2 messages have been received, the DDM then applies voltage and ground to the driver door window motor to move the window glass as requested. If the window being operated is a passenger door window, and no prohibitive class 2 messages have been received, the DDM sends the request, via the power door serial data circuit, to the appropriate passenger door module. The passenger door module then applies voltage and ground to the passenger door window motor to move the window glass as requested.
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I have a saturn ion 06 coupe, neither of my windows are working! I have checked the fuse replaced both motord\regulators and the switches. They're still not working!! Plz help


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Diagnostic Fault Information

Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

Circuit/System Description

The power window system will operate any time the ignition is the ACC or RUN position. The power window system will also operate whenever the body control module (BCM) is in retained accessory power (RAP) mode. The driver power window switch contains individual window switches for each of power windows. All windows may be controlled up and down from the driver power window switch. The individual passenger power window switches will only control the up and down operation of their respective power window.
Each power window contains a reversible power window motor. The direction the window travels is dependent upon the polarity of the supply voltage. By reversing polarity of the supply voltage the window motor will move up or down. Each power window motor is internally circuit breaker protected.
Battery voltage is supplied to the power window switch through the accessory voltage supply circuit. The power window switch also receives a constant ground source. The power window motor control circuits are connected to ground through the normally closed up and down contacts of the power window switch. When the power switch is placed in the down position, the power window motor down control circuit is switched to 12 volts and is applied to the down side of the power window motor. Since the other side of the power motor is connected to ground through the normally closed contacts of the up switch, the window travels down. By placing the power window switch in the up position, the polarity of the power window motor is reversed and the window travels up.

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Circuit/System Verification

Ignition ON, command the appropriate door window UP and DOWN by pressing the appropriate Window switch. Observe the operation of the appropriate door window.

Circuit/System Testing

  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the B+ harness connector at the Driver Window Switch.
  2. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the ground circuit terminal D and ground.
  3. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the ground circuit for an open/high resistance.
  4. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the B+ circuit terminal E and ground.
  5. If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the B+ circuit for an open/high resistance. If the PWR WNDW fuse is open, test the circuit terminal C for a short to ground.
  6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the Driver Window Switch.
  7. Ignition OFF, connect the harness connector at the Driver Window Switch.
  8. Ignition OFF, disconnect the Passenger Window Switch.
  9. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the B+ circuit terminal and ground.
  10. ?X If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the B+ circuit for an open/high resistance.
  11. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal H and ground.
  12. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the Driver Window Switch
  13. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal D and ground.
  14. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the Driver Window switch
  15. Connect a test lamp between control circuit terminal H and control circuit terminal D.
  16. Ignition ON, command the passenger door window UP and DOWN by pressing the passenger window control on the Driver Window Switch. The test lamp should illuminate during either of the commands.
  17. ?X If the test lamp remains OFF, test for a short to ground or open/high resistance on either control circuit. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the Driver Window Switch.
  18. Ignition OFF, reconnect the Passenger Window Switch.
  19. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the appropriate Window Motor.
  20. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal A and ground.
  21. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the appropriate window switch.
  22. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal B and ground.
  23. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the appropriate window switch.
  24. Connect a test lamp between control circuit terminal A and control circuit terminal B.
  25. Ignition ON, command the appropriate window UP and DOWN by pressing the appropriate Window Switch. The test lamp should turn ON when commanding the UP and DOWN states.
  26. ?X If the test lamp remains OFF during either of the commands, test for a short to ground on either control circuit. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the appropriate Window Switch
  27. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the appropriate Window Motor.

Component Testing

    Driver Window Switch
  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the Driver Window switch.
  2. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals A and B and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the INACTIVE position.
  3. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the Driver Window switch.
  4. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal A and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the UP position.
  5. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  6. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal B and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the DOWN position.
  7. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  8. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals F and H and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the INACTIVE position.
  9. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the Driver Window switch.
  10. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal F and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the UP position.
  11. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  12. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal H and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the DOWN position.
  13. If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch
    Passenger Window Switch
  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the Passenger Window switch.
  2. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals G and F and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the INACTIVE position.
  3. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
  4. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal G and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the UP position.
  5. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
  6. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal F and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the DOWN position.
  7. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
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    1. Install a 30-amp fused jumper wire between the control terminal A and 12 volts. Momentarily install a jumper wire between the control terminal B and ground. The appropriate Window Motor should perform the UP or DOWN function.
    2. ?X If the function does not perform as specified, replace the appropriate Window Motor.
    3. Reverse the jumper wires; the appropriate Window Motor should perform the DOWN or UP function.
    4. ?X If the function does not perform as specified, replace the appropriate Window Motor

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Where is the power window relay located on the '03 Buick Century? And could this be the problem for all windows to stop working at the same time EXCEPT the driver's window? Or possibly the lock switch not...


The lock switch is designed to keep the passenger buttons from being used. It should not stop the master switch from operating the windows - or at least, that's what the 2003 Buick Century Owner's Manual says.

After studying the schematics for your vehicle, Iwould say that the owner's manual is correct. The lockout switch only cuts power to the passenger switches. The driver's (master) switch can still power the passenger windows. If none of the passenger windows work from either the driver's door switch or the passenger switches, then the master switch probably has an internal open circuit causing this. There is no separate relay or fuse. I would replace the master switch. Be sure and check ALL switches with the lock on and the lock off to verify this before replacing anything.

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Make sure the window lockout button is not depressed on the master window switch. This will turn off the other switches and not let them control there respective windows.

Power is supplied to all the windows from one fuse and one relay. So if the master switch operates the window than we know the fuses and relays are o.k. We know the master switch will operate the window so that tells us the window motor and ground side of the passenger window motor circuit are also good.

Which leaves us with a bad switch or no power to the switch. The passenger window switch gets its power to operate independently from the master switch window lockout button. When the button is off power is supplied to the passenger switch and allows the passenger to operate the window themselves.

The only thing you need to do is check for power at the passenger switch on the brown wire with orange stripe. If there is power there then you have a bad switch.

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Ford was notorious for bad switches on the drivers window control panel. But before you replace it pull the whole inner door panel off. You will have to unplug the switch panel to do it... check the connections on the window motor itself, then check and clean the connector that plugs into the inner door panel and the switch panel itself, If these dont fix it check an auto boneyard for a replacement switch... AAlso if you are savy with automotive electrical, CAREFULLYcheck the motor operation with a jumper wire replacing the switch to ensure it isnt a bad motor... most likely it is the switch but Murphy's law has a whole subset of rules for automotive electrical applications...

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