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Would it be a bad idea to cut my crossmember underneath the oil pan on my 2000 ford crownvictoria 4.6l. In order to change my oil pan and gasket but im thinking about making a bracket to bolt it back on with maybe 3 bolts running through each side

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Bad idea to cut any fixed cross members. They have been designed by engineers which have calculated the strength required for that member to do the job. If it could be cut and bolted in it would have been done in production to save money on repair costs for warranty work. Lift the motor is the answer but if you are not qualified to do the work the get an accredited mechanic to do the job.

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    wings dupree Nov 23, 2014

    You make a good point boyd i agree with you in most ways i only thought of it as a last resort its gunna be a pain in my backside to change it out myself but i dont feel that a mechanic should be the only option

  • Bill Boyd Nov 23, 2014

    a mechanic is just an option. Cutting the cross member is not. Get yourself a workshop manual form a spare parts shop. auto publication shop and study how to do the job. Sometimes it appears to be a real pain but I have learnt to look at the big picture to see the short cut. I learnt this when I was repairing the rear of a jag. It was extremely difficult until I saw that removing the whole assembly from the body ( 15 minutes ) cut the repair job to 1 hour. What I am explaining is that cars are manufactured with the quickest assembly process possible . Modern cars have the body lowered over the assembly or in your case the engine gear box is inserted before the front is put on the car. Removing some engine mounts and lifting the engine a few inches will be the quickest and easiest way to do the job. The manual will show where to save time.

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I would myself try and take it off without cutting it,if thats not possible then I would cut the hole thing out and get one from the scrap yard.hope this was some help

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    wings dupree Nov 23, 2014

    Yes it was helpful ive been debating on weather or not i should do it

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my opinion is to do an oil change while you are at it to save some stress. draining the old oil will help from having to hold the pan full of oil and tipping it over, etc. then simply take off the bolts, which should be anywhere from8-12 or so. make sure you clean both sides of the pan. the lip and the side thats on the block. place the new gasket on the pan and put four nuts [corners are best] finger tight. then insert the rest of the bolts and make sure you dont over torque!!!

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its a simple job no exact torque is needed as the bolts you are tightening will only require a ten millimeter socket to do it equivalent to a 1/4 inch bolt just snug them and top it all of with a half turn beyond that.simple job really .

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How do i change the oil pan on a 2007 ford f150 4.2L v6?


4.2L Engine
  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the Precautions Section.
    WARNING
    During engine repair procedures, cleanliness is extremely important. Any foreign material, including any material created while cleaning gasket surfaces, that enters the oil passages, coolant passages or the oil pan can cause engine failure.
  2. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  3. Remove the starter.
  4. Drain the engine oil. Install the drain plug when finished.
  5. Remove the 4 bolts and the crossmember.
  6. Remove the 3 oil pan-to-transmission bolts.
  7. Remove the 17 bolts and the oil pan.
  8. Remove and discard the oil pan rear seal.
To install:

WARNING
Do not use metal scrapers, wire brushes, power abrasive discs or other abrasive means to clean the sealing surfaces. These tools cause scratches and gouges which make leak paths. Use silicone gasket remover and a plastic scraping tool to remove all traces of old sealant. Follow the directions on the packaging.
  1. Clean the gasket mating surfaces using silicone gasket remover, a plastic scraping tool and metal surface prep. Follow the directions on the packaging.
    NOTE
    If the oil pan is not secured within 4 minutes, the sealant must be removed and the sealing areas cleaned. To clean the sealing area, use silicone gasket remover and metal surface prep. Follow the directions on the packaging. Failure to follow this procedure can cause future oil leakage.
  2. Apply silicone gasket and sealant to the oil pan sealing areas shown and install the oil pan rear seal.
  3. Apply silicone gasket and sealant to the rear main bearing cap.
  4. Install the oil pan rear seal.
  5. Apply a bead of silicone gasket and sealant to the oil pan mating surface.
  6. Position the oil pan and install the bolts. Tighten the bolts in the sequence shown. Tighten to 10 Nm (89 inch lbs.).
  7. Install the 3 oil pan-to-transmission bolts. Tighten to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs).
  8. Install the starter.
  9. Position the crossmember and install the 4 bolts. Tighten to 90 Nm (66 ft. lbs.).


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Feb 15, 2016 | Ford Cars & Trucks

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How do i change out the oil pan?


4.2L Engine
  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the Precautions Section.
    WARNING
    During engine repair procedures, cleanliness is extremely important. Any foreign material, including any material created while cleaning gasket surfaces, that enters the oil passages, coolant passages or the oil pan can cause engine failure.
  2. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  3. Remove the starter.
  4. Drain the engine oil. Install the drain plug when finished.
  5. Remove the 4 bolts and the crossmember.
  6. Remove the 3 oil pan-to-transmission bolts.
  7. Remove the 17 bolts and the oil pan.
  8. Remove and discard the oil pan rear seal.
To install:

WARNING
Do not use metal scrapers, wire brushes, power abrasive discs or other abrasive means to clean the sealing surfaces. These tools cause scratches and gouges which make leak paths. Use silicone gasket remover and a plastic scraping tool to remove all traces of old sealant. Follow the directions on the packaging.
  1. Clean the gasket mating surfaces using silicone gasket remover, a plastic scraping tool and metal surface prep. Follow the directions on the packaging.
    NOTE
    If the oil pan is not secured within 4 minutes, the sealant must be removed and the sealing areas cleaned. To clean the sealing area, use silicone gasket remover and metal surface prep. Follow the directions on the packaging. Failure to follow this procedure can cause future oil leakage.
  2. Apply silicone gasket and sealant to the oil pan sealing areas shown and install the oil pan rear seal.
  3. Apply silicone gasket and sealant to the rear main bearing cap.
  4. Install the oil pan rear seal.
  5. Apply a bead of silicone gasket and sealant to the oil pan mating surface.
  6. Position the oil pan and install the bolts. Tighten the bolts in the sequence shown. Tighten to 10 Nm (89 inch lbs.).
  7. Install the 3 oil pan-to-transmission bolts. Tighten to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs).
  8. Install the starter.
  9. Position the crossmember and install the 4 bolts. Tighten to 90 Nm (66 ft. lbs.).

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Feb 15, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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How do i change my oil pan on my 2000 ford crown victoria. There seems to be a welded in crossmember holding the engine underneath do i have to remove the motor mounts and raise the engine to do the oil...


Yes you will have to raise the engine, also, and remove some other items that can be damaged when lifting. An engine hoist will be needed for this job. This text was taken from a 2000 crown vic workshop manual.
see pic for torque sequence. i could not locate a torque spec, so you will have to hand feel them. if it is a rubberized gasket do not over tighten as it will crush the gasket.

Hope this helps!

Rick



Removal

  1. Remove the air cleaner outlet tube.
  1. Remove the wiper arm and pivot shaft assembly.
  1. Remove the drive belt.
  1. Remove the fan motor and shroud assembly.
  1. Disconnect the fuel lines. For additional informatio
  1. Remove the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) tube.
  1. Remove the generator.
  1. Remove the blower motor speed control.
  1. Raise the vehicle.
  1. Remove the RH engine mount bolt.
  1. Remote the two LH engine mount bolts.
  1. Remove the four nuts and support the exhaust.
  1. Remove the bolt for the transmission line support bracket.
  1. Loosen the nuts for the transmission mount.
  1. Lower the vehicle.
  1. NOTE: The RH motor mount has a second bolt accessed from the top.Remove the bolt.
  1. Using the special tool, raise the engine with a suitable floor crane.
  1. Using the special tool, support the engine.
  1. Raise the vehicle.
  1. Remove the oil pan bolts.
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  1. Position the oil pan aside and remove the bolts from the oil pickup tube.
  1. Remove the bolt from the oil pickup tube bracket.
  1. Remove the O-ring and inspect.
  1. Remove the oil pan and gasket from the vehicle through the front.
Installation
  1. Install the oil pan and gasket on the vehicle.
  1. Install the O-ring, using a new one if necessary.
  1. Position the oil pickup tube and tighten the bolts.
  1. Install and tighten the bolts.
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  1. Lower the vehicle.
  1. Using the special tool, and a suitable floor crane, raise the engine and remove the special tool.
  1. Remove the special tool.
  1. Lower the engine
  1. Remove the special tool.
  1. Raise the vehicle.
  1. Tighten the nuts.
  1. Install and tighten the bolt.
  1. Reposition the exhaust and tighten the nuts.
  1. Install and tighten the bolts.
  1. Install and tighten the bolt.
  1. Lower the vehicle.
  1. Tighten the bolt.
  1. Install the blower motor speed control.
  1. Install the generator.
  1. Install the EGR tube.
  1. Connect the fuel lines.
  1. Install the air cleaner outlet tube.
  1. Install the wiper arm and pivot shaft assembly.
  1. Install the drive belt.
  1. Install the fan motor and shroud assembly.

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How to replace the oil pan gasket in a f150 1988 truck


Hi there:

  1. Drain the cooling system.


CAUTIONWhen draining the coolant, keep in mind that cats and dogs are attracted by ethylene glycol antifreeze and are quite likely to drink any that is left in an uncovered container or in puddles on the ground. This will prove fatal in sufficient quantity. Always drain the coolant into a sealable container. Coolant should be reused unless it is contaminated or several years old.
  1. Remove the bolts attaching the fan shroud to the radiator and position the shroud over the fan.
  2. Remove the upper intake manifold and throttle body (see Fuel System ).
  3. Remove the nuts and lockwashers attaching the engine support insulators to the chassis bracket.
  4. If equipped with an automatic transmission, disconnect the oil cooler line at the left side of the radiator.
  5. Remove the exhaust system.
  6. Raise the engine and place wood blocks under the engine supports.
  7. Drain the crankcase.


CAUTIONThe EPA warns that prolonged contact with used engine oil may cause a number of skin disorders, including cancer! You should make every effort to minimize your exposure to used engine oil. Protective gloves should be worn when changing the oil. Wash your hands and any other exposed skin areas as soon as possible after exposure to used engine oil. Soap and water, or waterless hand cleaner should be used.
  1. Support the transmission with a floor jack and remove the transmission crossmember.
  2. Remove the oil pan attaching bolts and lower the oil pan onto the crossmember.
  3. Remove the two bolts attaching the oil pump pickup tube to the oil pump. Remove the nut attaching the oil pump pickup tube to the No. 3 main bearing cap stud. Lower the pickup tube and screen into the oil pan.
  4. Remove the oil pan from the vehicle.

To install:
  1. Clean the oil pan, inlet tube and gasket surfaces. Inspect the gasket sealing surface for damages and distortion due to overtightening of the bolts. Repair and straighten as required.
  2. Position a new oil pan gasket and seal to the cylinder block.
  3. Position the oil pick-up tube and screen to the oil pump and install the lower attaching bolt and gasket loosely. Install nut attaching to number 3 main bearing cap stud.
  4. Place the oil pan on the crossmember. Install the upper pick-up tube bolt. Tighten the pick-up tube bolts.
  5. Position the oil pan to the cylinder block and install the attaching bolts. Tighten to 10-12 ft. lbs. (13-16 Nm).
  6. Install the transmission crossmember.
  7. Raise the engine and remove the blocks under the engine supports. Bolt the engine to the supports.
  8. Install the exhaust system.
  9. If equipped with an automatic transmission, connect the oil cooler line at the left side of the radiator.
  10. Install the nuts and lockwashers attaching the engine support insulators to the chassis bracket.
  11. Install the upper intake manifold and throttle body (see Fuel System ).
  12. Install the fan shroud.
  13. Fill the crankcase.
  14. Fill and bleed the cooling system.




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Fig.: 5.0L and 5.8L engine oil pan gaskets and seals


1987 5.8L Engine With 4-Bbl. Carburetor

  1. Remove the oil dipstick (on pan entry models only).
  2. Remove the bolts attaching the fan shroud to the radiator and position the shroud over the fan.
  3. Remove the nuts and lockwashers attaching the engine support insulators to the chassis bracket.
  4. If equipped with an automatic transmission, disconnect the oil cooler line at the left side of the radiator.
  5. Raise the engine and place wood blocks under the engine supports.
  6. Drain the crankcase.


CAUTIONThe EPA warns that prolonged contact with used engine oil may cause a number of skin disorders, including cancer! You should make every effort to minimize your exposure to used engine oil. Protective gloves should be worn when changing the oil. Wash your hands and any other exposed skin areas as soon as possible after exposure to used engine oil. Soap and water, or waterless hand cleaner should be used.
  1. Remove the oil pan attaching bolts and lower the oil pan onto the crossmember.
  2. Remove the two bolts attaching the oil pump pickup tube to the oil pump. Remove nut attaching oil pump pickup tube to the number 3 main bearing cap stud. Lower the pick-up tube and screen into the oil pan.
  3. Remove the oil pan from the vehicle.
  4. Clean oil pan, inlet tube and gasket surfaces. Inspect the gasket sealing surface for damages and distortion due to overtightening of the bolts. Repair and straighten as required.
  5. Position a new oil pan gasket and seal to the cylinder block.
  6. Position the oil pick-up tube and screen to the oil pump and install the lower attaching bolt and gasket loosely. Install nut attaching to number 3 main bearing cap stud.
  7. Place the oil pan on the crossmember. Install the upper pick-up tube bolt. Tighten the pick-up tube bolts.
  8. Position the oil pan to the cylinder block and install the attaching bolts. Tighten to 10-12 ft. lbs. (13-16 Nm).




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Is there ANY way to change the oil pan gasket on a S10...


Remove motor mount bolts and rear transmission crossmember bolts or nuts,suppport engine/trans. see if u have enough clearance between pan and axle remove pan. if not, split the exh away from the manifolds. worth a try

Dec 22, 2009 | 2001 Chevrolet S-10

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How you take out the oil pan on 1990 ford bronco 4x4 302 5.0


Ford Pick-ups and Broncos 1987-1996 Repair Guide
Fuel Injected 5.0L and 5.8L Engines - Oil Pan
  1. Drain the cooling system.
CAUTION When draining the coolant, keep in mind that cats and dogs are attracted by ethylene glycol antifreeze and are quite likely to drink any that is left in an uncovered container or in puddles on the ground. This will prove fatal in sufficient quantity. Always drain the coolant into a sealable container. Coolant should be reused unless it is contaminated or several years old.
  1. Remove the bolts attaching the fan shroud to the radiator and position the shroud over the fan.
  2. Remove the upper intake manifold and throttle body (see ).
  3. Remove the nuts and lockwashers attaching the engine support insulators to the chassis bracket.
  4. If equipped with an automatic transmission, disconnect the oil cooler line at the left side of the radiator.
  5. Remove the exhaust system.
  6. Raise the engine and place wood blocks under the engine supports.
  7. Drain the crankcase.
CAUTION The EPA warns that prolonged contact with used engine oil may cause a number of skin disorders, including cancer! You should make every effort to minimize your exposure to used engine oil. Protective gloves should be worn when changing the oil. Wash your hands and any other exposed skin areas as soon as possible after exposure to used engine oil. Soap and water, or waterless hand cleaner should be used.
  1. Support the transmission with a floor jack and remove the transmission crossmember.
  2. Remove the oil pan attaching bolts and lower the oil pan onto the crossmember.
  3. Remove the two bolts attaching the oil pump pickup tube to the oil pump. Remove the nut attaching the oil pump pickup tube to the No. 3 main bearing cap stud. Lower the pickup tube and screen into the oil pan.
  4. Remove the oil pan from the vehicle.
To install:
  1. Clean the oil pan, inlet tube and gasket surfaces. Inspect the gasket sealing surface for damages and distortion due to overtightening of the bolts. Repair and straighten as required.
  2. Position a new oil pan gasket and seal to the cylinder block.
  3. Position the oil pick-up tube and screen to the oil pump and install the lower attaching bolt and gasket loosely. Install nut attaching to number 3 main bearing cap stud.
  4. Place the oil pan on the crossmember. Install the upper pick-up tube bolt. Tighten the pick-up tube bolts.
  5. Position the oil pan to the cylinder block and install the attaching bolts. Tighten to 10-12 ft. lbs. (13-16 Nm).
  6. Install the transmission crossmember.
  7. Raise the engine and remove the blocks under the engine supports. Bolt the engine to the supports.
  8. Install the exhaust system.
  9. If equipped with an automatic transmission, connect the oil cooler line at the left side of the radiator.
  10. Install the nuts and lockwashers attaching the engine support insulators to the chassis bracket.
  11. Install the upper intake manifold and throttle body (see ).
  12. Install the fan shroud.
  13. Fill the crankcase.
  14. Fill and bleed the cooling system.

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Dec 02, 2009 | 1990 Ford Bronco

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Can you replace an oil pan gasket on a 1995 Ford F150 4.9L V6 by just removing the bolts and resting it on the crossmember? I have an oil pan leak with the gasket pushed out just below the oil filter. Also...


my opinion is to do an oil change while you are at it to save some stress. draining the old oil will help from having to hold the pan full of oil and tipping it over, etc. then simply take off the bolts, which should be anywhere from8-12 or so. make sure you clean both sides of the pan. the lip and the side thats on the block. place the new gasket on the pan and put four nuts [corners are best] finger tight. then insert the rest of the bolts and make sure you dont over torque!!!

Oct 30, 2009 | 1995 Ford F150 Styleside Regular Cab

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Leaky oil pan


There are a couple of solutions here.

You can try to retorque the pan bolts and this may slow or fix the leak. This is probably the easiest thing to try.

You may be able to drop the pan down to the cross member and sneak the gasket into place. This is more difficult, but may save having to jack up the engine.

You can't remove structural bar.

If you do decide to lift the engine, you can probably replace the gasket by lifting the engine while everything is still connected.

Good Luck with your project.

Tim

Thanks Ford! You could have made a bolt on crossmember.

May 02, 2009 | Ford F-150 Cars & Trucks

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