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Terry Bennett Posted on Oct 21, 2014
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07 Milan overcharging battery. Replaced alternator. Still overcharging battery. Original alternator bench tested good. What would cause this.

Milan goes though batteries every 8 months. Car was diagnosed to be overcharging battery. Had 15.6 to 16.4 volts across battery. After replacing alternator problem still exists. Old alternator tested good. What would cause this? Should I drive the car?

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I would say pcm.these. are notorious for getting spiked from ignition sys.have ya had any perfomance problems in the past?

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  • Posted on Jan 12, 2010

SOURCE: alternator tests good ot store but on car only

sounds like a bad battery - check that -even if new try a well known used battery if you need to. Also charge the battery to full charge and then try it. Many ford [ merc] will tell you do not install a battery that is not fully charged as it will cause problems with the charging system. As a last resort try a new battery with a FULL CHARGE and check the wiring for very hard places near the alternator. These can be a sign of working the assembly too hard. Consider replacing the 'hard' portions of the wires.

Testimonial: "thank you so much. knew battery tested and charged, so checked wiring. wires had frayed a connecting terminal between alternator and regulator. ty"

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  • Posted on Jul 16, 2010

SOURCE: 1995 mystique, battery light is on, 12 volts

Was the old alternator tested to see if it was bad? If it was and all wires are in good shape and reconnected the new alternator the new one may be bad also. It can happen.

Carlos Jaen

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  • Posted on Oct 02, 2010

SOURCE: my battery light is on

Sounds like your voltage regulator is acting up, and at times will not let alternator voltage reach the circuit. At this point car stars drawing on battery alone (triggering battery light) and working until it is out of juice. Before you buy a new voltage regulator, make sure that its contact points on the alternator, and the plug from it to the vehicle circuit is clean, shiny and making good contact. These parts, due to their location tend to collect dirt and moisture, leading to an intermittent performance before they stop working completely.

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Charging/electrical problem

charging voltage should be 14.5-16..not 12.5.. thats too low.. get the alternator replaced and your charging issues should disapear..
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Overcharging

I'm going to assume your meter is accurate and you have verified the 18.4 reading.
Something has to be bypassing the regulator to make the alternator charge at full power. The regulator breaks the circuit dozens of times per minute to maintain 14 volts. Does the alternator charge with the regulator unplugged ?
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What would cause the battery in my milan to not hold a charge

check voltage from battery car running. if alternator good it will produce 13.6-14.2 volts. if lower replace alternator. good-day ! make sure battery posts and wires are clean and tight.
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My 2005 Pontiac Sunfire has had several problems over the past couple of months. When I was driving all my gages went to zero when I would start to break. After I started moving again they would go up....

Your car's symptoms (voltage fluctuations under load that shouldn't happen) seem to
strongly indicate that your voltage regulator has failed. The voltage regulator is the component
that regulates voltage coming from the alternator, and which is supplied to the rest of the car.
Your new belt tensioner indicates to me (and should have to your mechanic) that the
alternator and/or voltage regulator weren't able to operate properly, and a faulty belt tensioner
has killed more than one car's alternator/voltage regulator.
Your do not need new headlights. Do fix the turn signals.

In the 2005 Sunfire, the voltage regulator is an integral component of the alternator, and is
not separately serviceable. So your 2005 Sunfire needs a new alternator.

2005 Pontiac Sunfire Alternator - Duralast Part Number: DL2305-15-4 $199.99 available at:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/2005-Pontiac-Sunfire/Alternator/_/N-jmqtpZ93xme

The national parts chains (Advance Auto Parts, AutoZone, Pep Boys) will (for free) administer
a "Charging System Test." Which will telly you for sure that your alternator/voltage regulator
is bad. Do this before replacing alternator, since its a pricy part in the 05 Sunfire.

Just in case, Here's the 2005 Sunfire manual entry on (a) Diagnosis & testing the alternator, and
(b) replacement of the alternator

Alternator replacement is a do-it-yourself project, though you may need to get a
"Serpentine Belt Kit" on your favorite parts store's loan-a-tool program to remove/re-install the serpentine (drive) belt.
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Diagnosis & Testing - 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Alternator


Alternator Load Test

1. With the engine running, turn on the blower motor and the high beams ( or other electrical accessories to place a load on the charging system).

2. Increase and hold engine speed to 2000 rpm.

3. Measure the voltage reading at the battery.

4. The voltage should increase at least 0.5 volts from the voltage test. If the voltage does not meet specifications, the charging system is malfunctioning.
NOTE
Usually under and overcharging is caused by a defective alternator, or its related parts (voltage regulator), and replacement will fix the problem; however, faulty wiring and other problems can cause the charging system to malfunction. Many automotive parts stores have alternator bench testers available for use by customers. An alternator bench test is the most definitive way to determine the condition of your alternator.




Alternator No-Load Test

1. Connect a tachometer to the engine.
CAUTION
Ensure that the transmission is in Park and the emergency brake is set. Blocking a wheel is optional and an added safety measure.


2. Turn off all electrical loads (radio, blower motor, wipers, etc.)

3. Start the engine and increase engine speed to approximately 1500 rpm.

4. Measure the voltage reading at the battery with the engine holding a steady 1500 rpm. Voltage should have raised at least 0.5 volts, but no more than 2.5 volts.

5. If the voltage does not go up more than 0.5 volts, the alternator is not charging. If the voltage goes up more than 2.5 volts, the alternator is overcharging.
NOTE
Usually under and overcharging is caused by a defective alternator, or its related parts (regulator), and replacement will fix the problem; however, faulty wiring and other problems can cause the charging system to malfunction. Many automotive parts stores have alternator bench testers available for use by customers. An alternator bench test is the most definitive way to determine the condition of your alternator.


6. If the voltage is within specifications, proceed to the next test.



Voltage Test

1. Make sure the engine is OFF , and turn the headlights on for 15-20 seconds to remove any surface charge from the battery.

2. Using a DVOM set to volts DC, probe across the battery terminals.

3. Measure the battery voltage.

4. Write down the voltage reading and proceed to the next test.



Removal & Installation - 2005 Pontiac Sunfire Alternator


2.2L (VIN 4) Engines

1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions section.

2. Remove or disconnect the following:

Negative battery cable

Accessory drive belt

Alternator mounting bolts

Alternator electrical connectors

Alternator





To install:

1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions section.

Alternator. Torque the upper bolts to 37 ft. lbs. (50 Nm) and the lower bolt to 22 ft. lbs. (30 Nm).

Alternator electrical connectors

Accessory drive belt

Negative battery cable





2.2L (VIN F) Engines

1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions section.

2. Remove or disconnect the following:

Negative battery cable

Accessory drive belt

Alternator mounting bolts

Alternator electrical connectors

Alternator





To install:

1. Install or connect the following:

Alternator. Torque the bolts to 16 ft. lbs. (22 Nm).

Alternator electrical connectors

Accessory drive belt

Negative battery cable
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Put a new alernater an still over charging

Over charging could be the result of several things including:
    Faulty Voltage Regulator
  1. A car's battery will overcharge if the voltage regulator isn't working correctly. A voltage regulator is usually part of the alternator, and is used to keep a steady flow of voltage to the battery. If the voltage regulator is defective, it will send either too little or too much charge to the battery. If it sends too much, the car battery will overcharge. The voltage regulator is easily replaceable at an easily affordable price, sometimes for as little as twenty dollars, as of 2009.
  2. Faulty Alternator
  3. Sometimes the alternator itself can be at fault. The alternator is the device that converts the mechanical power of the engine into electrical power to charge the battery. When an alternator breaks, it usually stops creating electricity for the battery, which will then eventually die. However, if the wrong alternator is placed in the car, or if the alternator is running at the wrong pace, it will create too much energy for the car battery, causing it to overcharge. The alternator is another easily replaced part.
  4. Incorrect Charger Use
  5. If a battery charger is used to charge your battery outside of your car, improper use of the charger can result in overcharging. If a battery is placed on the charger too long, it can result in overcharging, and a significant decrease in your battery's lifespan and efficiency. This is why it is important to read about your specific battery and understand how long it needs to charge to be effective. Too much charge will lead to problems.
  6. Faulty Battery Chargers
  7. Sometimes chargers can be faulty. Their settings may be wired incorrectly, or the charges labeled incorrectly. As a result, your battery may be getting overcharged, even if you are carefully monitoring your charging. This is a problem that is hard to avoid, as manufacturing mistakes can happen anywhere, anytime without warning. It is a good idea to test your charger regularly to see if it is running correctly.
  8. Heat
  9. Extreme heat in the summer can also have an adverse effect on the car battery. If the battery has been previously overcharged, extreme heat can increase the problems caused by overcharging, and exacerbate any other problems with the battery. This problem can be hard to avoid if you live in a warm climate. The only real way to ensure safety against this problem is to avoid overcharge in the first place.
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I have a 1994 cadillac sedan deville with a 4.9 engine. The message center in the instrument cluster says the voltage is too high. I have replaced the alternator but still comes on . Maybe you can help me....

The first thing to do is have the battery tested and then the charging system checked, this will show you if its overcharging,if it is overcharging then take a look at the wiring going to alternator,and also a bad battery can also cause a problem so first find out if message center is displaying the correct message, this will show if center is okay then move on to battery testing then alternator test, there may be a problem with the wiring or a defective alternator.
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Car battery keeps draining.is the altenator overcharging it.

Have the battery tested and replace as necessary. Once you are sure the battery is good, have the charging system tested. The voltage for this is between 13.5 volts and 14.7 v. Anything greater than that is just too much and can cause the battery to overheat and have to be replaced prematurely. Let me know if you need anything else.
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My battery is boiling and smelling. Is it a faulty battery, or is my alternator causing it to over-charge the battery?

You need to replace the battery to start with. you cannot test the charging system with the battery the way it is or you will get a false reading. Once you replace the battery, you can then test your charging system to see if the alternator is causing the problem. If its charging more than 14.8 -15 volts, its too much and you will need to replace the alternator.
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