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92 dakota 3.9 won't fire

I've replaced the crankshaft position sensor, ignition coil, distributor cap and rotor as well as the fuel pump assembly (which was originally what was the problem..but now the fuel gauge stopped working grrrr). It acts like it wants to fire but just won't start. any ideas would be appreciated,

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Replace ignition control module,may be built in to computer

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If it doesn't the ignition system may be the problem.

The following may aid in understanding the ignition side of things:

ELECTRONIC IGNITION Description and Operation NOTE: All models utilize a crank angle sensor in the distributor. This sensor is used to provide engine position information to the Electronic Control Unit (ECU). The ECU regulates ignition timing electronically, therefore no vacuum or centrifugal advance is used. Also, because of the ECU control, no periodic service adjustments are necessary. However, if timing or idle speed problems are suspected a combined ignition timing and idle speed inspection procedure is provided. Fig. 1: Distributor assembly with crank angle sensor - note the retaining screws 86712013.gif
The only major component in the electronic ignition distributor assembly is the crank angle sensor. It is basically a rotor plate wheel with 360 slits, one per degree of crankshaft rotation. A Light Emitting Diode (LED) is mounted above the slits and a photo diode is below. As each **** uncovers the LED, the photo diode detects the signal and reports to the ECU. A second LED/photo diode pair is mounted inboard of the 1 degree set to read slits indicating Top Dead Center (TDC) of each cylinder, with a special signal for the No. 1 cylinder. On all engines, the assembly is in the distributor (retained by 2 screws), just below the rotor. Fig. 2: Power transistor and ignition coil 86712014.gif
Fig. 3: Crank angle sensor components 86712015.gif
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