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Controle for fan speed dose not turn on fan for defrost or heat or cool. Tested fan by jumping power and it works. would like to know if the relays in switch are not working. How do the switch controles are removed.

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You could take a look at it and depending on the car you will see screws or latches that you can take off after this you can take out the old controls and buy replaceable nobs to put in this should solve the problem.

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2009 chevy hhr speakers don't work and a/c radiator fan won't come on


What engine does it have ?

Cooling Fan Control 2.0L
The engine cooling fan is a variable speed fan. The engine control module (ECM) controls the fan speed by sending a pulse width modulated (PWM) signal to the cooling fan control module. The cooling fan control module varies the voltage drop across the engine cooling fan motor in relation to the PWM signal. The cooling fan speed can be adjusted from 10 percent to 94 percent duty cycle. 94 percent is considered high speed fan.
Cooling Fan Control 2.2L or 2.4L
The engine cooling fan system consists of one cooling fan and one relay. Voltage is supplied to the relay through a fuse. The engine control module (ECM) controls the fan operation by grounding the cool fan relay control circuit. When the cool fan relay is energized, voltage is delivered to the cooling fan motor. The cooling fan motor is grounded through its own ground circuit.
When the request for fan activation is withdrawn, the fan may not turn OFF until the ignition switch is moved to the OFF position or the vehicle speed exceeds approximately 10 mph. This is to prevent the fan from cycling ON and OFF excessively at idle.


Just one speaker doesn't work ? Do you know how to do automotive electrical testing ? That's how to find both your problems . Speakes work by electrical inpluse's . The A/C radiator ( condenser ) fan also works by B+ voltage through a fuse an a relay , controlled by the engine electronic control module or PCM - powertrain control module . When you push the A/C turn on button , it sends a signal to the PCM . The PCM will then energize the radiator fan relay turning on the fan . Check fuse in the under hood fuse box , If the fuse is blown you have a electrical short , too much current flow . Plus if the PCM sees too much pressure in the A/C system it will not let the A/C work .

Mar 31, 2017 | Cars & Trucks

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FANS WONT COME ON ,,ALL FUSES,RELAYS AND ELECTRIC FAN MOTORS ARE NEW,,THERMOSTAT IS GOOD,,WHERE IS ELECTRIC FAN TEMP SENSOR LOCATION


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why not post symptoms first and not a barrage of parts.
must we decode that to a symptom,. kinda hard right.

I will not guess. what is wrong, nor what is not working on your car. now what fans you are talking about, up to 4 fans on cars.

cab blower fan (wild guess blower is ok) and so is HVAC, ?
radiator fans
Condenser fan.

my wild guess to , engine over heats?????????
if yes, the scan it first. no not last FIRST.
it dont work like you think its not a 1988 Samurai.
sorry,
on modern cars, they got smarter, the engine goes
gee the PCM knows water temp why have a fan temp regulator.
hark , now it dont. (saves cash on useless parts)
but has a relay , (well until you have my car and the relay is now 100% electronic, called a huge transistor)
we've used this tech in industry for years, but car makers just learning how still.
i digress. but evolution and history helps diagnosis.
what is there?

Ill look for you, ive posted this 100s of times
the book is 4 bucks to see online. the real deal
lets look now.
XL-7 (the dash matters big time)
answering for , overheats engine, and fans on RAD dead.
(some are staged, PCM brains... now. and also chain ops based on if A/C is on or not) facts.
first I see 2 fans... ok.
the next page shows nice block diagram of the fan system
yup, NOT Simple.

ill post those words for you.
"The engine cooling fan system consists of 2 electrical cooling fans and 3 fan relays. The relays are arranged in a series/parallel configuration that allows the engine control module (ECM) to operate both fans together at low or high speeds. The cooling fans receive positive voltage from the cooling fan relays which receive battery positive voltage from the underhood fuse block.
During low speed operation, the ECM supplies the ground path for the low speed cooling fan relay which is fan 1 relay through the low speed cooling fan relay control circuit. This energizes the low speed fan relay coil, closes the relay contacts, and supplies battery positive voltage from the fan 1 fuse through the cooling fan motor supply voltage circuit to the left cooling fan. The ground path for the left cooling fan is through the series/parallel relay which is fan 2 relay, and the right cooling fan. The result is a series circuit with both fans running at low speed.
During high speed operation the ECM supplies the ground path for the low speed fan relay through the low speed cooling fan relay control circuit. The ECM grounds the high speed fan relay, which is fan 3 relay, and the series/parallel relay, which is fan 2 relay through the high speed cooling fan relay control circuit. This energizes the series/parallel relay coil, closes the relay contacts, and provides a ground path for the left cooling fan. At the same time the high speed fan relay coil is energized closing the relay contacts and provides battery positive voltage from the fan 2 fuse 1 on the cooling fan motor supply voltage circuit to the right cooling fan. During high speed fan operation, both engine cooling fans have their own ground path. The result is a parallel circuit with both fans running at high speed.
When the request for fan activation is withdrawn, the fan may not turn OFF until the ignition switch is moved to the OFF position or the vehicle speed exceeds approximately 16 km/h (10 mph). This is to prevent a fan from cycling ON and OFF excessively at idle.
end quote.

i bet you didnt scan it , like 99.9 % of all posters here dont.
DTC Descriptors
DTC P0480: Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit
DTC P0481: Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit
DTC P0691: Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit Low Voltage
DTC P0692: Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit High Voltage
DTC P0693: Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit Low Voltage
DTC P0694: Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit High Voltage
Diagnostic Fault Information

is the ECT showing overheat, yes no?
if yes, it must operate a fan or 2.
the book even covers all tests for fans dead, in a large truth table.
both the FSM and alldata.com have that, its no secret ,its published in 4 major places.

lets back up
if the engine coolant is low (no that side tank the engine and rad)
the ECT will lie. if that happens the fans may not come one
that is because the ECT is useless measuring air, for water.
that water must touch ECT for ECT to work.
this is FIRST
then scan the ECT does it show overheating, IT must if it IS overheating. fix that next if it lies to you,(IR gun in hand)

The system has staged fans.
i cant find the trip points in my crappyy online pages.
but is like 225f then 250f trips. is my guess...
about. if the engine over heats, check fuses first then scan it.
it will simply tell you why its bad.
eg, fan1 output dead.
or if you hot wire a fan and its dead, then it is.
(only on cars with non modulated fans,,hot wire them,else not.)

now the link to the 4 buck real book.
the non dash XL7 (my guess) you this pick yourself... cant see car.
https://suzukipitstopplus.com/Products/10182-2007-xl7-service-manual.aspx

this is how it really works
the ECU has software that decide trip points for fans.
hard coded, this is. based on how hot it is and if A/C is on not.
its way smarter than 1988 and better.
the DTC errors can see an open line, shorted to ground or stuck 12v.(runs all time error)
(tells you relay is good or not)

25839272-0kjd5huq4lpr130nt243wle5-3-0.jpg no scanner no joy , sorry, tis a fact.....

25839272-0kjd5huq4lpr130nt243wle5-3-2.jpg

Aug 27, 2015 | 2007 Suzuki XL-7

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2004 Venture Chevrolet minivan cooling fan circut


Are you talking about the radiator fan? How hot does the engine get in degrees F? Some makes and models, the radiator fan won't turn on till about 220 degrees F. Check for applicable trouble codes, see if any code that refers to the radiator fan circuit or coolant temp sensor? Some of the national brand auto stores will check codes for free.

Of course, as far as overheating in general, you have the thermostat--water pump and other possible issues. Are you losing coolant?

Dec 14, 2014 | Chevrolet Cars & Trucks

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Dodge Stratus R/T fan doesn't come on while car is running and car is getting hot.


FAN NOT WORKING


It can be issue with faulty motor or its faulty fan control relay.


Bother are to be inspected.

Test volt at fan relay and fan motor.

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For more help, I suggest you to go through the troubleshooting links mentioned below:-----

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How to replace Cooling Fan on Acura Car models?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-replace-cooling-fan-on-acura-car.html

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OBD Code P1490 low speed fan relay ckt open-short

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/11/obd-code-p1490-low-speed-fan-relay-ckt.html

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Engine cooling components working?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/11/engine-cooling-components-working.html

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How does Vehicles Engine cooling system works?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-does-vehicles-engine-cooling-system.html

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Hyundai Sonata cooling fan not working

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/02/hyundai-sonata-cooling-fan-not-working.html

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Fuel pump relay and cooling fan relay troubleshooting on 1997 ford thunderbird?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/fuel-pump-relay-and-cooling-fan-relay.html

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Fan belt routing diagram for 2004 Volkswagen Jetta?

http://carbeltrouting.blogspot.com/2011/12/fan-belt-routing-diagram-for-2004.html

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Timing belt, drive belt, serpentine belt, accessory belt, fan belt, engine belt routing diagrams for all types of car models?

http://carbeltrouting.blogspot.in/2012/02/timing-beltdrive-beltserpentine.html

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A/C, heater, defroster fan, not working?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/ac-heater-defroster-fan-not-working.html

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Blower fan not running on Isuzu trooper?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/blower-fan-not-running-on-isuzu-trooper.html

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How to replace blower motor fan assembly on 2000 GMC Yukon?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-replace-blower-motor-fan.html

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Heater AC or defroster fan not working on KIA?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/heater-ac-or-defroster-fan-not-working.html

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These will help.

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Nov 27, 2012 | Cars & Trucks

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Engine cooling fan only works when ac or defrost is on


if engine at long stand still,the engine temperature will rise about 190 degrees the cooling fan suppose to automaticaly turn on when coolant temperature sensor get hot it cause its resistance decrease causing pcm to send power to coolant fan relays and cooling fans, when you turn on AC the cooling fans suppose to turn on to cool down AC CONDENSOR, IF NOT AC WONT WORK COOLING FAN COOLS DOWN REFRIGERANT SO IT CAN RECYCLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM AGAIN.your cooling is suppose to turn on when engine at a sit still if vechicle not moving as coolant temperature rises at a set point the cooling fans will turn on cool down engine.cooling fans dont turn on when you first cold stsrt vechicle unless you have AC SWITCH ON.if cooling fans dont turn on when vechicle at a long stand still or moving along slow traffic.if coolant temperature sensor been replaced and fuses and relays okay have dealership check see if pcm driver circuit working faulty pcm will cause cooling fans not to turn on.

Sep 27, 2012 | 1996 Buick Century

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Cooling system fan don't come on


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  • Check if it is getting power. Check fuse No. 34.
  • Check the cooling fan relay.
  • Run engine to bring temp up then turn off engine, disconnect harness,Visually inspect for pinched wires.
  • Test for power with a test light(have to turn ignition on).
  • If you have power could be a faulty fan (try spinning it to jump start it and see if it takes off).
  • No power could be a faulty sensor or bad wiring.
  • My experience with this type of problem points towards a malfunctioning temp switch if everything has checked out at this point.
  • It's located at lower cooling house, bottom right.
  • To Test that you need to bridge or jump the terminals. If you hold the terminal with the fastener on top and flat side left.
  • Test for power first, Ignition on
  • Left side female controls 1st speed jump them and see if fan works.
  • Right side female controls 2nd speed jump them and see if fan works.
  • If your fan works replace the Temp switch if not. and you do have power check out the fans.
  • if you don't have power chase the wires back looking for a broken, burnt or pinched line.

Jun 11, 2012 | 1999 Audi A6

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My 98 neon is over heating and i know why, its the fans, their not working but the question is "why aren't they working ?" the fuses are find (they've been tested ) is it the fan motor? i was told that...


When trying to trouble shoot any automobile electrical system, you have to be aware of all components and their locations. A wiring diagram of your cooling system will provide you with this information. Once you have it you can use this diagram to test the fan itself, relay and controllers by jumping them directly to the battery. If those components are fine you can test the coolant sensor which tells the fans when to turn on. Work your way thru the system from the fans back to the begining of the circuit.

May 18, 2010 | Cars & Trucks

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No high speed on fan for heat and air


Replace your high speed cooling fan relay with a known working relay (rear window defrost for instance) and see if the fans turn on while the air is on high. If so, you need a new relay. You can also look into the fuse that protects the relay circut.

Jul 06, 2009 | 1994 Oldsmobile Silhouette

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My radiator fans both have stopped working


Could be a few things. If your fans were just working then just stopped, it could be the fan motor. It could also be the relay. If you know where your lo speed and high speed cooling fan relays are located, you can eliminate this step easily. Take a known working relay (rear defrost or something not essential for starting) and replace the fan relay with the known operational relay while your engine is running and A/C is turned on. If the fans start, there's your problem, if not, then it's probably your fan motors.
Make sure the fuse that protects the fan speed relays is not blown as well.

Jul 06, 2009 | 2002 Mitsubishi Lancer

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Van chevrolet venture 2000


Fifteen minutes! you have bigger problems than only the fans the fans are controlled by a thermo switch that is heated by the coolant, If you have no coolant the sensor cannot activate But fifteen minutes seems like you may have a headgasket problem and steam cannot heat the coolant sensor.OperationNotesThe electric cooling fan operates when the engine cooling temperature exceeds a certain value. The cooling fan on this engine is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) . The PCM turns the cooling fan ON by grounding the coil of the cooling fan relays when certain conditions are met. When the A/C is requested, the cooling fan will also be turned ON.

Power for the cooling fan motors are supplied through Maxifuses(R). The cooling fan relays are energized when current flows from the fuses in the Underhood Accessory Wiring Junction Block, and through the relay coils to ground through the PCM. The Coolant Fan 1 Relay Control Circuit is grounded for low speed fans operation. During low speed fans operation, both fans run at a slow speed. The Coolant Fan 1 Relay Control Circuit is grounded for high speed operation. During high speed fans operation, both fans run at high speed.

IMPORTANT: When certain Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are present, the PCM may command the cooling fans to run all the time. Perform the A Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check prior to diagnosing the engine cooling fans.

For more information regarding the Charging System, refer to Charging System Description , and Charging System Circuit Description in Starting and Charging.

If a problem that involves the low speed cooling fan relay control circuit exists, DTC P0480 Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit should set. If the problem affects the high speed cooling fan relay control circuit, DTC P0481 Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit should set. A problem with the ECT sensor should set DTC P0117 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage, DTC P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Circuit High Voltage, DTC P1114 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent Low Voltage, DTC P1115 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent High Voltage. Any of these DTCs will affect cooling fan operation and should be diagnosed before using the Electric Cooling Fan Diagnosis.

For more information regarding the Cooling System refer to Engine Cooling Fan Description - Electric, and Cooling System Description in Cooling System.


Here is the electrical schematic and how it all is suppose to work,
If you need any further help please contact me Thank you,Randy If you find this information helpful please give me a good rating

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Aug 16, 2008 | 2000 Chevrolet Venture

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