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Kevin Simpson Posted on Jul 23, 2014

Why do my brakes pump up after bleeding and still go to the floor when i start the truck?

Already replace master cylinder and booster, good fluid coming out of bleeders, ???????????

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Hello.

If the brakes pump up after you start your engine, it means your brakes are good and there are no bleeds.

They pump up as the car builds pressure inside the brake fluid circuit.

If the pedal loses pressure and hits the floor while the engine is on, this means that you may have brake fluid leaks and your brakes won t hold much longer (needs immediate fix).

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This is an easy fix un plug the abs sensor from spindle abs light will come on but the brakes will work only abs will not

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do it again .. bleed the master cylinder maybe more than once .. I have had this happen before they are tough sometimes to get to take fluid right .. bleed it again till fluid is really flowing right .. your problem is the master cylinder not blead enough yet .. holler if you have more Jerry

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  • Posted on Oct 18, 2009

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do u have the antilock brake bleeding tool? if not you will need to have the dealer bleed the brakes, the ABS control valve must be electricaly held open to bleed the brakes there of course is a special tool for this.

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You still have air in the system. You will have to bleed more. I had to bleed a quart of brake fluid out of each wheel to get good brakes on my 1996 GMC.

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  • Posted on Nov 20, 2010

SOURCE: I have a 1997 chevy cavalier. I replaced wheel

sometimes if you leave the bleeder screw open it will gravity bleed the cylinder.Make sure master cyl is full and do one wheel at a time.I have seen this work, I have done it.

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