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Diostonic code comes up #41 as a cam sensor for a 3.8. I do not have a 3.8 engine or a cam. Could it be a fireing oder error in the crank shaft sensor, or the ecm, or something else?

When I am driving down the road at 65 mph it misfires then all the gages go goofy. It jerks and looses power for a second or two. It will straighten itself out and not die This happens when the engine is under a load.

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  • Posted on Sep 19, 2008

SOURCE: starts but doesn't stay running

Is it maintaining good fuel pressure?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 27, 2008

SOURCE: 2001 GMC Sonoma Engine stopped while driving

sounds like it could be plugged injectors or a timing problem.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 09, 2009

SOURCE: GMC Sierra 2002 4.3 V6 P1345

intake gasket i had the same problem with my truck

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adam jackson

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  • Posted on Mar 09, 2009

SOURCE: 02 GMC Sierra 4.3 V6 P1345

Well that sounds like a tough one , But here is a site worth checking out . Several mechanics use this it to help out people like your self that are frustrated and are getting P #$%$# off ! Good luck

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 27, 2009

SOURCE: No power at fuel pump.

have you checked the fuses??

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Fix p0018 is it more of crankshaft sensor issue, will a defective crankshaft sensor still allow truck to start

no
the purpose of the crank position sensor is to tell the ECM where the piston is so that the ignition can fire the coil and to the plug at the correct time
if it is defective , it will not allow it to fire , , run properly
code p 0018 refers to crank shaft /cam shaft position , bank 2 sensor A --correlation===causes wiring-- Crank sensor--- Cam sensor-- mechanical fault

when you see mechanical fault and you have a sluggish engine or other problems , it could be that the cam control servo is malfunctioning and that is reporting as a correlation problem because the ECM is getting varying readings as to where the cam position really is in relation to the crank position and rpm
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CMP - Cam shaft Position Sensor

<p><b><span>3.2) <span> </span><u>CMP - Cam shaft Position </u>(sensor)<u> </u></span></b><br /> <p><b><u><br /></u></b><br /> <p><b><span>What is it?</span></b><span><span> </span>This electrical device is very similar in concept to the crank position sensor (above) in that it detects the position of the rotation of a shaft, in this instance the cam shaft.<span> </span>It is the cam shaft signal that indicates to the ECU that cylinder one is at top dead centre at compression and in the process provides the ECU with the timing reference for fuel injection.<span> </span>The cam shaft sensor provides extra information, to that of the crank sensor, to fine tune timed events such as injection and spark delivery.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><span>Where is it located?</span></b><span> The location of this device depends on the design and age of engine.<span> </span>On many modern overhead cam shaft engines the cam shaft sensor is located either on the end, or to the side of the end, of the cam shaft housing.<span> </span>On older pushrod engines the cam sensor is found where the distributor would once have been located.<span> </span>This type sensor assembly makes use of the distributor shaft meshing directly, at its bottom end, with a gear on the cam within the engine block.<span> </span>In this respect the distributor shaft is just an extension of the cam shaft.<span> </span>On the top end of this distributor shaft is a magnetic armature.<span> </span>The cam shaft sensor, that measures the movement of this armature, is located in the cover and uses either magnetic or 'Hall effect' pickup modules.<span> </span></span><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <p><b><span>How does it work?</span></b><span><span> </span>The sensor detects the position of a magnet or set of teeth on the gear on the end of the cam.<span> </span>An electrical waveform output signal is sent to the ECU as the cam turns.<span> </span>The cam sensor tells the ECU that cylinder 1 is at TDC on its compression stroke prior to ignition. <span> </span>The cam sensor ensures the correct timing of the fuel injection cycle.<span> </span>If the timing belt ever jumps a tooth on the cam the lack of agreement between the respective signals from the cam and crank sensors is indicated as an error condition by the ECU. </span><br /> <p><b><u><span><span> </span></span></u></b><br /> <p><b><u><span>Symptoms of faulty cam sensor</span></u></b><br /> <p><b><span>Associated OBD2 error codes DTCs: <span> </span>P0341 - P0349; P1345</span></b><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <ul> <li><b><span>Hesitant acceleration - </span></b><span>miss-timing of fuel injection due to a faulty CMP can cause intermittent loss of power.<b></b></span></li> <li><b><span>Starting difficulty/failure.<span> </span></span></b><span>If the faulty CMP timing problems are severe they may cause the engine not fire at all, or to fire and then stall, or stall at some random time without warning.<b></b></span></li> <li><b><span>Hot engine stall and failure to restart - </span></b><span>Sometimes the fault of the CSS only manifests itself when the engine is hot.<span> </span>Over time thermal stress can cause cracking and can weaken electrical junctions within the CMP.<span> </span>The CMP may work well at cold start up but can then cause a hot running engine to stop with little chance of restart whilst the engine is still hot;<span> </span>once cooled the down the engine may readily restart and again run for a limited period until hot.</span></li></ul> <p><b><u><span>Note </span></u></b><span>The cam sensor body often protrudes into the cam shaft gallery and when it's 'o' ring seal<span> </span>becomes age hardened, engine oil may leak back into the sensor electrical socket plug connector causing errors due to interruption of signal. </span><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <p><b><span>How to check? </span></b><span>It is not technically<b> </b>easy<b> </b>to determine that the CMP is at fault and, like the crank sensor, may require the use of an oscilloscope.<span> </span>If it is part of a sophisticated on board diagnostics system its failure may be logged as a specific error code in the ECU. Due to the variability problems with engine running are often experienced well before any error codes are set by the ECU.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><span><span> </span>2 pin socket (magnetic - sine wave output).<span> </span>One pin is 'ground' the other is 'signal'.<span> </span>A voltmeter set to 2 volts AC should measure a signal in the 0.2 to 2 volts range on the 'signal' pin.</span><br /> <p><span><span> </span>3 pin socket (Hall effect, magneto - square wave form output).<span> </span>One pin is 'reference' (5volts), one pin is 'ground' and the third pin is 'signal'.<span> </span>A DC voltage should be detectable in the 0.5 to 1.5 volt range from the 'signal' pin.</span><br /> <p><span>It is important that the voltage measurement take place at start up when the engine is cold and again, 20 minutes later, when the engine has fully warmed up to operating temperature. Often the voltage output from faulty sensors declines with temperature rise.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><span>How to fix?<span> </span></span></b><span>If the CMP failure is due oil leakage into the electrical connector then a thorough clean and a renewal of the oil seal on the CMP may correct the situation.<span> </span>It can be a wise precaution to change the connecting cable as oil migration beneath the insulation may possibly contaminate components at some distance to the CMP.<span> </span></span><br /> <p><span>If the CMP has an internal fault then it must be replaced.</span><br />
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Will crank sensor causes fuel injectors not to fire?

On Multi point fuel injector cars where the sequential actuation of the fuel injectors occur the timing is triggered from the Crank Shaft position sensor.

The cam shaft is an also key sensor providing the crank shaft rotation sequence first or second rotation to provide the complete timing function

Without these two sensors no spark or fuel.

An engine code will be recorded will provide the culprit if one has failed.

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What could cause a1991 suzuki samurai to have no fire from a new coil?

no spark from coil directly?
is the cam turning, is the dizzy rotor spinning. ????

check all fuses first. Ig-coil, FI and dome.
then using diagnostic jumper wire or fuse, (as approp)
crank engine look for code 41 o 42.!!!

USA cars , answers only
our cars are all EFI that year.
no engine swaps to Suzuki G16A/B sidekick or tracker engines.!
1: engine cranks
2: no spark
3: The ECu makes spark
the CMP sensor in the DIzzy , (never fails if rotor turns, does rotor turn, if not cam belt igored and now snapped.)
the cam turns. the CMP fires. the ECU takes this CMP signal
and fires the ignitor next to coil and the coil charges, and release and BAM spark.

that is it.
the ECU will tell you when the CMP dies or the Ignitor fails
why not ask it.
1: key on
2: diagnostic jumper in place (flashes 12s for ok)
3: crank engine,for 5sec, not 1 ,not 2.
3: release key not off.
4: see code 41, or 42, BINGO !@!!!!
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Engine Light on....engine cranks, can hear fuel pump prime, but not starting...Could this be a crank shaft sensor? or cam shaft sensor?

Get a scanner hooked up to see what error code your computer has found. This may lead you to the problem directly.
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Trouble code 41: my car was stalling all the time, and after a while would not start, (didnot turn over), or start and the die immediatly, so I replaced the cam shaft sensor, like it said.in the chilton...

Cam sensor signal was not received by PCM for the last 2 seconds while engine was running. You may have a bad crank sensor and balancer that is coming apart.
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Ford 1994 Explorer. After 20-30 minutes of

yes the egr could be clogged or loosing vaccum check the valve by taking it out or looking to see if the pickup tube on the valve is bad or has a pin hole in it.
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Can a faulty cam position sensor cause a car to not fire when it warms up

No. A bad cam sensor usually causes a long crank before firing and a check engine light on steady with a code 41.
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2000 Pasat Engine Cranks but No Fire

likely crank shaft sensor ,maybe fuel pump or cam shaft sensor ,ignition module under coil pack,check your codes as your first effort in this,
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