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Passlock lite flashes, won't let engine stay on

Saturn dealership and local shop have replaced every component from the ignition key to the body control module. I suggested he try to something unorthodox such as rewiring or by passing the system.The warranty was over 20k miles ago.

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There is a detailed write-up on passlock here: http://newrockies.ca . The guy is great, this was the only way I was able to save my Park Avenue.

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What most i do when my 2002 chevy avalanche security light keep flashing


Take it to the dealer or a ASE certified repair shop .or go on youtube an check out videos on anti-theft by pass for GM vehicles .There are a few different type's . VATS , pass key 1,2 or three . Being yours is a 2002 model year it isn't the VATS .
Passlock™ System
The theft deterrent system has been incorporated into the body control module (BCM). The theft deterrent is provided in order to prevent the vehicle operation if the correct key is not used in order to start the vehicle. The ignition key turns the lock cylinder. The cylinder rotation produces an analog voltage code in the Passlock™ sensor. This voltage code is received by the BCM. The BCM compares the voltage code to the previously learned voltage code. If the codes match, a class 2 message is sent from the BCM to the powertrain control module (PCM)/vehicle control module (VCM). The message enables the fuel injectors.
The design of the Passlock™ system is to prevent vehicle theft by disabling the engine unless the ignition lock cylinder rotates properly by engaging the correct ignition key. The system is similar in concept to the PASS-Key® system. However, the Passlock™ system eliminates the need for a key mounted resistor pellet. The components of the Passlock™ system are as follows:
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2000 suburban was stolen replaced ignition cylinder it turns over but no start


Do you have a security light lit or flashing on the Instrument cluster ?
The theft deterrent system has been incorporated into the body control module (BCM). The theft deterrent is provided in order to prevent the vehicle operation if the correct key is not used in order to start the vehicle. The ignition key turns the lock cylinder. The cylinder rotation produces an analog voltage code in the passlock?"¢ sensor. This voltage code is received by the BCM. The BCM compares the voltage code to the previousely learned voltage code. If the codes match, a class 2 message is sent from the BCM to the powertrain control module (PCM)/vehicle control module (VCM). The message enables the fuel injectors.
The design of the passlock?"¢ system is to prevent vehicle theft by disabling the engine unless the ignition lock cylinder rotates properly by engaging the correct ignition key. The system is similar in concept to the passkey system. However, the passlock?"¢ system eliminates the need for a key mounted resistor pellet. The components of the passlock?"¢ system are as follows:
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The ignition lock cylinder


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The ignition switch


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The passlock?"¢ sensor


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The Body control module (BCM)


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The security telltale


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The vehicle/powertrain control module (VCM/PCM)


The ignition lock cylinder is located at the upper right side of the steering column. The Passlock?"¢ sensor is in the steering column. The Passlock?"¢ sensor is separate from the key and lock cylinder. The key and the lock cylinder work together in order to determine if the proper ignition key was used to start the vehicle.
In the event of an open Class 2 serial data line between the BCM and the VCM/PCM, the vehicle will become fail-enabled if the VCM/PCM has already received the password from the BCM for that ignition cycle (the engine is running). In this event, the following conditions occur:
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The security telltale will be ON continuously.


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The VCM/PCM will become fail-enabled for future ignition cycles.

If a failure in the Class 2 serial data line occurs before the ignition cycle, when the VCM/PCM is not fail-enabled, the following conditions occur:
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The VCM/PCM will never receive a valid password in order to enable the fuel injectors.


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The vehicle will not start.


The lock cylinder and the visible key insert portion of the ignition switch are located at the upper right side of the steering column. The electrical switching portion of the assembly is separate from the key and lock cylinder. The electrical switch portion is hidden inside the steering column. The electrical switch portion and the key and lock cylinder synchronize and work in conjunction through the action of the mechanical assembly between the 2 parts.
Passlock?"¢ Sensor
The passlock?"¢ sensor is inside the upper right side of the steering column. The passlock?"¢ sensor contains 2 hall effect sensors. The tamper hall effect sensor is on the top. The security hall effect sensor is under the tamper hall effect sensor. Both of the hall effect sensors monitor the magnet of the lock cylinder through an opening. The tamper hall effect sensor is physically placed on top of the security hall effect sensor. This arrangement enables the tamper hall effect sensor to engage first if an intruder attempts to bypass the passlock?"¢ sensor by placing a large magnet around that area of the steering column. There is a tamper resistor inside the passlock?"¢ sensor in order to help prevent tamper to the system. Passlock?"¢ equipped vehicles have a selection of 10 different security resistors ranging from 0.5K ohms up to 13.6K ohms. Installing one of the security resistors inside the passlock?"¢ sensor will generate a unique passlock?"¢ code. All 10 combinations of the passlock?"¢ sensor have the same part number. However, you cannot simply replace the passlock?"¢ sensor and expect the system to operate properly. Always start by performing the Diagnostic System Check first and following the instructions.
SECURITY Telltale
The SECURITY telltale appears on the message center inside the instrument cluster. If the SECURITY telltale flashes or if the SECURITY telltale lights continuously during the vehicle operation, refer to the system diagnosis.
Fuel Lockout Cycle
The Passlock?"¢ system has a lockout cycle of approximately 10 minutes. Once the vehicle is in the lockout cycle, the vehicle remains in the lockout cycle for 10 minutes, even if the ignition switch is turned from the RUN position to the OFF position.
The Passlock?"¢ system uses the lockout cycle in order to synchronize all of the Passlock?"¢ components when any Passlock?"¢ related part is changed. The Passlock?"¢ system requires 3 consecutive lockout cycles in order to complete the 30 minute learn procedure for a changed component.

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How to reset security ignition on a 1999 chevy silverado?


There is a lot of info on this site that you can read up on. http://vatspasslockpasskeysecurityhelp.yolasite.com/

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How do you reset passlock?


Turn the key to run position (engine not running) theft light will flash a few times and stay on. Leave for approximately 10 minutes (may take up to 20 min.) And the theft light will turn off. Repeat these steps 3 times. After the third turn the key off and attempt to start.

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The theft deterrent system has been incorporated into the body control module (BCM). The theft deterrent is provided in order to prevent the vehicle operation if the correct key is not used in order to start the vehicle. The ignition key turns the lock cylinder. The cylinder rotation produces an analog voltage code in the Passlock™ sensor. This voltage code is received by the BCM. The BCM compares the voltage code to the previously learned voltage code. If the codes match, a class 2 message is sent from the BCM to the powertrain control module (PCM)/vehicle control module (VCM). The message enables the fuel injectors.
The design of the Passlock™ system is to prevent vehicle theft by disabling the engine unless the ignition lock cylinder rotates properly by engaging the correct ignition key. The system is similar in concept to the PASS-Key® system. However, the Passlock™ system eliminates the need for a key mounted resistor pellet. The components of the Passlock™ system are as follows:
• The ignition lock cylinder
• The ignition switch
• The Passlock™ sensor
• The Body control module (BCM)
• The security telltale
• The vehicle/powertrain control module (VCM/PCM)

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop.

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Now my mechanic wants to know if i have another key to my car i dont can he get a key at the buick dealership a 1995 key


The Passlock family has two basic relearn procedures-a ten-minute procedure and a thirty-minute procedure-and which one you use depends on the system and what components have been replaced.

The ten-minute procedure involves trying to start the engine. If nothing happens or the engine starts and dies, the security light will be flashing. Wait ten minutes. The flashing light should go off or illuminate without flashing. When it does, turn the ignition off, wait twenty seconds, and then try to start the engine. If it starts and runs, everything is okay. If you get the same result as previously-nothing happens or the engine starts and dies with the security light flashing-wait ten more minutes.

You will now begin the thirty-minute relearn procedure, which is just the ten-minute procedure repeated three times. After turning the ignition off for the third time and waiting for twenty seconds, the engine should start and run. If it doesn't, there may still be something wrong with the system.

After the learn procedure is completed and the engine is running, the security light may stay on steady for a few minutes and then go off-this is normal. Depending on the system, replacement of key components will necessitate that a relearn procedure be completed. These include the ignition lock cylinder, Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Body Control Module (BCM), or Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) ............ .Logic lock-up is an internal software issue within a control module which may be cleared by disconnecting and reconnecting the affected module (re-booting the system).

Electronic control modules can develop internal software issues which can cause erratic or no operation of the affected module. In most cases the module can be restored to proper operation by electrically disconnecting and reconnecting the affected module, just as you would reboot your home computer when it begins acting strangely.

Repeated Logic Lock-up failures of the same module would normally warrenty replacement of the affected module.

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SATURN DEALERSHIP HAS NEW IGNITION SWITCH OR KEYS. MOST AUTO PARTS STORES DONT SALE KEYS AND IGNITION SWITCH FOR NEWER VECHICLES THAT HAS THE PASSLOCK IGNITION SYSTEM.

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I have a very untechnical solution to this problem and I can't for the life of me remember where I heard it but it sure does work. Turn the igniton to ON so that the dash lights up. Eventually the others lights go out and the flashing "Securty" light stays. Keep the driver side door slightly ajar and sit and wait for that Security light to stop blink, usually 5-10 minutes. Once it stops blinking you can start your car. I can't promise that you won't have the starting problem again, but it will happen with decreasing frequency. Ultimately you need to have the passlock issue handled at a dealership. I say DEALERSHIP because it's a manufacturer flaw and they should be made aware of this issue everytime. They're also best equipped to handle it.

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