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1972 VW classic. Starts when cold, NP, won't

1972 VW classic. Starts when cold, NP, won't start when engine hot. Starter sounds weak? Let cool down, fires right up? Fix?

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  • eric_ballard Jun 24, 2009

    Thanks Greg. Unfortunately it is a new starter. But I think you are still right. I felt the starter after the engine was hot and would not start and the starter and solenoid was really hot. Why would a starter get so Hot? I know they emphasized the Bushing that goes on the end of the starter when installing. Could this be an issue. May be I need to remove starter and bushing, clean it up and reinstall? EB.

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It's your starter. When a faulty starter is cold, it will function but once it warms up, it requires more and more power to get it to work. Although you may have sufficient power to turn on the lights radio etc... a starter requires much more power to engage. A new starter should solve your problem. Best of luck.
Greg

Posted on Jun 24, 2009

  • Greg Margossian
    Greg Margossian Jun 24, 2009

    When you remove the starter, bench test it. There's always a chance that a rebuilt starter wasn't correctly rebuilt. A starter for your VDub isn't all that common anymore so there's always a chance you got a bad one. If after you bench test the starter ( or have it tested at an auto parts store that features this service) if it tests fine, then I would clean everything up and pay special attention to the solenoid.

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    Greg Margossian Jul 02, 2009

    Kindly rate the solution provided if you feel it answered your question. Thanks very much.

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Its a hot start issue.

Can be related to low fuel pressure or problem with crank sensor.


Also it can be weak battery or starter.


But possibilities are to be inspected to confirm what exactly it is.------


To troubleshoot and confirm the issue,i suggest you refer few solved help links with similar types of problem like yours:------


Click the link below:------


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http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1991-toyota-trecel-engine-starts-fine.html

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1994 Toyota Pickup: Starts fine but dies in few seconds?


http://howtobyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1994-toyota-pickup-starts-fine-but-dies.html

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1995 Lexus LS400: Running Hot?

http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1995-lexus-ls400-running-hot.html

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http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/2002-toyota-camry-puff-of-blue-or-white.html

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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/04/multiple-problems-on-car-car-runs-hotac.html

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