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Brake lamps inop

Bulbs are okay and gear selector releases, cruise control cancels when brake is pressed, suspect relay. where is it located?

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  • rolfv Jun 21, 2009

    Is there more than one switch at the brake pedal? Is it adjustable?

    There doesn't seem to be any relay involved.

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DId you Check the back up switch on the brake pedal

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