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Brian Radatz Posted on Apr 23, 2014
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No power going to coil I have changed the ignition switch crank sensor coil I have switched auto shut down relay

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What is your vehicle? Assuming you have a Chrysler, check to see if the fuel pump is coming on when you switch the ignition to the on position. Most of the Chrysler's with the auto-shutdown relay system use the same power to energize the fuel pump, ignition coil and fuel injectors. The hot lead to the coil should be the same color wire as the lead to the injectors and fuel pump. If power is present at the pump and injectors, then you should trace from the coil back to where it joins up to everything else. If nothing is powered up, check for bad fuses or a bad connection in the engine fuse block.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 27, 2008

SOURCE: Electrical fault in a '99 2.5 20V V70.

hi volvo
sounds like an poor earthing problem. in dc circuits offs go to ground, try cleaning up all earths and also look for any lives that may be shorting to the body or chassis

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  • Posted on May 26, 2009

SOURCE: Won't run

There are to many things that can cause the no start. Here is a link that can help you understand the possible problems and links to how to retrieve the DTC codes which is activating your Auto Shutdown relay.
Good luck and hope this helps. Keep me posted http://www.allpar.com/fix/stall.html

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Mike Butler

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  • Posted on Jun 11, 2009

SOURCE: 1997 ford explorer cuts off while driving down

If you confirmed spark is there, and you hear fuel pump working, I'd still try spraying WD-40 in throttle body intake for a couple of seconds, when it won't start, just to see if it kicks over, just in case pump is running but not up to pressure. If it fires for a second or 2 with WD-40, then you know lack of fuel is the problem.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 23, 2009

SOURCE: 1997 Grand Cherokee 4.0, ignition shuts down

The likely answer to your problem is that you have an intermittent disconnect in the ignition system. If power supply to the ignition system drops out, some fuel still goes through and when power returns it ignites in the exhaust resulting in a backfire. I would look for a bad ignition switch, or other loose connection that could me making/breaking contact intermittently.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 21, 2009

SOURCE: No Spark at Distributor Cap when cranking engine

check the ecm module. if its remoted, its on the dr's side fenderwell under the hinge. otherwise its on the distributor body. check cap and rotor, and the pip sensor in the distributor. those components control the spark timing and del. also check eec relay in the box on the dr's side fender. position one is the eec relay and fuse 22 is for that circuit

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I have a 2006 chevy uplander when shut off no start batt dead and ignition fuse in bjb replace fuse and still no start or crank no power to cluster cluster dead on commute back

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when shut off no start batt dead and ignition fuse in bjb replace fuse and still no start or crank no power to cluster cluster dead on commute back ????????? What about ignition fuse ? It was blown an you replaced it or you just replaced it ???? When you shut it off no restart ,the battery was dead ? Test battery , battery cable connections , charging system - is it charging ?
First off your probably unaware of how this vehicle works , This vehicle is powered up by the BCM turning on relays an sending commands over the serial data bus (network) ,do you know what that is ? The ignition switch is a low voltage input to the BCM .
Circuit Description (Key Start)
For ignition switch power modes refer to Body Control System Description and Operation . When the ignition switch is placed in the Start position a discrete signal is supplied to the body control module (BCM) notifying it that the ignition is in the Start position. The BCM then sends a message to the powertrain control module (PCM)/engine control module (ECM) notifying it that CRANK has been requested. At the same time the BCM is supplying 12 volts for the IGN 1 relay closing it and supplying battery positive voltage for the crank relay coil. The PCM/ECM verifies that the transmission is in Park or Neutral. If it is, the PCM/ECM grounds the control circuit of the crank relay. When this occurs battery positive voltage is supplied through the switch side of the crank relay to the S terminal of the starter solenoid.

Check the Ignition 1 relay -
Relay Controlled Power Mode
The body control module (BCM) uses the discrete ignition switch inputs ignition 1, ignition 3 and crank to distinguish the correct power mode. Once the BCM has determined the power mode selected by the vehicle operator it will energize the Ignition relay, Run relay and retained accessory power (RAP) relay, depending on which power mode is selected.
Ignition 1 Relay
The relay uses a Hot At All Times B+ power source derived from the underhood electrical center. The ignition 1 relay supplies a power signal to the following circuits when the Run or Crank power mode is selected:
• AC clutch relay
• ABS STG angle sensor
• Antilock brake system (ABS) yaw sensor
• Auxiliary power drop connector
• Crank relay
• Cruse control switch
• Electronic brake control module (EBCM)
• Engine control module (ECM)
• HVAC module
• Ignition control module (ICM)
• Instrument panel cluster (IPC)
• Sensing and diagnostic module (SDM)
• Transmission solenoid circuit
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Crank but no start

What make , model an year vehicle ? Could be a relay problem , power hold relay for ford , ignition 1 relay for GM vehicles or ASD - auto shut down relay for jeep , dodge , Chrysler vehicles . Asian vehicles have them too , Honda - main relay powers fuel injectors , coils etc.... Do you know how to do basic automotive electrical testing ? Check for voltage ? You would need to look at a wiring diagram for your vehicle , see which wire powers the coil an injectors etc...test for B+ voltage ! Videos on you tube showing how to test ignition , fuel etc..
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How do you bypass the auto shut down?

What make , model an year vehicle do you have ?
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Shuts down for no apparent reason

Have you figured out if you are loosing spark or fuel pressure when the engine quits ? Could be a relay, coil, fuel pump, or various other electrical components.
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Car will not staart now, it was running at one time, but would cut off while driving.. i have replaced the fuel pump, and filter, plugs, wires,cap,button, crank and cam sensor, and coil.....i find now i...

It may be the ASD relay (auto shut down relay). They are not expensive, and I would replace it and see if this is the issue. It seems you have covered everything else as far as part replacement, at this point, the ASD relay is most likely the issue. Unless there are DTC's stored in the PCM?
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Have you pulled codes to see if anything comes up? check to see if you have primary voltage to coil. engine cranking, if no power to coil. check ignition switch or fuse they may be bad. if all else fails, or there is spark or power to coils. this site will show how to test ignition: www.ehow.com/how_4509361_troubleshoot-ignition-system-dodge-caravan.html good-luck!
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I have 1998 dakota cranks but no start no spark how do I check?

Do you hear the fuel pump when you cycle the key?
If not, then Check the ASD - auto shut down relay ,under hood, drivers side,distribution box
Only got computer,crank sensor,and coil
The distributor hall effect sensor, is for the injector timing,do not move the dist.,

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If you got no wiring diagrams or experience with a volt meter,your in a tough spot.
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Sounds like an AUTOMATIC SHUTDOWN (ASD) RELAY problem. Fairly common on the Caravan.
Heres a brief overview of the ASD.
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) operates the Auto Shutdown (ASD) relay by switching the ground path on and off.
The ASD relay supplies battery voltage to the fuel injectors, electronic ignition coil and the heating elements in the oxygen sensors.
The PCM controls the relay by switching the ground path for the solenoid side of the relay on and off. The PCM turns the ground path off when the ignition switch is in the Off position unless the 02 Heater Monitor test is being run. Refer to On-Board Diagnostics. When the ignition switch is in the On or Crank position, the PCM monitors the crankshaft position sensor and camshaft position sensor signals to determine engine speed and ignition timing (coil dwell). If the PCM does not receive the crankshaft position sensor and camshaft position sensor signals when the ignition switch is in the Run position, it will de-energize the ASD relay.
The ASD relay is located in the Power Distribution Center (PDC). The PDC is located on the driver's side inner fender well Power Distribution Center . A label on the underside of the PDC cover identifies the relays and fuses in the PDC
Check for good ground.
Good luck...i hope this helps, please rate me a fixya.
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NO Start the truck is not getting spark the coil is good but i'm not getting any power to the coil and I need to know if i'm testing it right i'm thinking it is the ignition

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