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Check code engine po171

Replace the oxygen sensors, hose, fuel pump works well, everything seems fine without vacuum, she runs well but the failure continues (runs 15 miles and the light back on) (P0171 code) if you turn off the engine and wait for 5 minutes the engine will not start. Waits for 10-20 minutes there can start the engine.

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  • Don Garretson
    Don Garretson Apr 22, 2014

    Hi chivopacion f, I want to help you with your problem, but I need more information from you. Can you please add details in the comment box?
    Specifically what the code is.

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    and what engine under the hood. what size, cylinder count. 3.5 L LX9 V6, 3.9 L LZ9 V6, 3.9 L LGD V6 that code is engine code. why not read the FSM, and see what that DTC means, it tells you the MAF is bad. (or loose wires to it,or just dirty) the book explains what to do, or at ALLDATA.COM log in and read. or things that make the MAF look bad and its not the maf, here is a list, (more tests) The MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor is dirty or faulty Note: The use of "oiled" air filters may cause the MAF to become dirty if the filter is over-oiled. There is also an issue with some vehicles where the MAF sensors leak the silicone potting material used to protect the circuitry. There could be a vacuum leak downstream of the MAF sensor Possible cracked vacuum or PCV line/connection Faulty or stuck open PCV valve Failed or faulty oxygen sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Sticking/plugged or failed fuel injector Low fuel pressure (possible plugged/dirty fuel filter!) Exhaust leak between engine and first oxygen sensor, the code simply means the 02 sensor is stuck lean, more , why not learn to use google, here is one good hit. Random;http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/gm/4.3L...

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    _-__-___-_ Apr 23, 2014

    the key fact here, is did you run the scan tool full time driving, to see if other codes (DTC) are popping up, 174 after all the car has 2 cylnder banks and 1 oxy sensor on each. and if only one sensor fails, that tells me its an exhaust leak. find it with a rubber hose to your EAR, and hear that putt putt sound, bingo bad exhaust man. or just a bad gasket. the 02 is not fibbing, its sees illegal oxygen, there. causes by 2 things. cracks letting air in, or gross misfire on that side, there are many tests to find it, , why not get an ASE mech. to find it.

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I'd be more concerned at looking into the fact that it takes a while to cool off in order to start up again. P0171/174 codes mean a lean condition. I'd suspect that you may have a problem with Vapor lock on the one bank, which is causing air to form in the fuel rail on that side. Since air compresses, the fuel pressure doesn't necessarily come up enough to restart the engine until the fuel has cooled down enough to stop boiling. Did this start happening once the weather in your area started getting warmer?

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that car is under warranty for emmision failuare, it a federal law, also you changed wrong sensor poo36 and poo54 mean o2 sensor after the cat-converter is no good not the first one by engine, replace the one after cat and problem will be fixed. good luck.

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2001 chevy tahoe code po440, po171


DTC P0171 or P0174
Circuit Description
The powertrain control module (PCM) controls the air/fuel metering system in order to provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control. Fuel delivery is controlled differently during open and closed loop. During open loop, the PCM determines fuel delivery based on sensor signals without oxygen sensor input. During closed loop, the oxygen sensor inputs are added and used by the PCM to calculate short and long term fuel trim fuel delivery adjustments. If the oxygen sensors indicate a lean condition, fuel trim values will be above 0 percent. If the oxygen sensors indicate a rich condition, fuel trim values will be below 0 percent. Short term fuel trim values change rapidly in response to the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) voltage signals. Long term fuel trim makes coarse adjustments in order to maintain an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1. If the PCM detects an excessively lean condition, this DTC will set.

Diagnostic Aids
• The system will go lean if an injector is not supplying enough fuel.
• A lean condition could be present during high fuel demand due to a fuel pump that does not pump enough fuel.
• Use a scan tool in order to review the Failure Records . If an intermittent condition is suspected, refer to Intermittent Conditions .
With every DTC a diagnostic flow chart is given for a diagnostic direction .(thing's to test ) For these test's you need a professional or factory scanner ! Plus knowledge of how these system's work would be nice .

Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.
If conditions were not corrected, refer to Fuel System Diagnosis for a possible fuel problem.
If conditions were not corrected, a worn cam, worn intake or exhaust valves, or other engine mechanical failure may be the problem.

Step
Action
Values
Yes
No
1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?
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YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls
2
Important: If any DTCs other than P0171 or P0174 are set, refer to those DTCs before continuing
Install a scan tool.
Start and idle the engine at the normal operating temperature in closed loop.
Record the Long Term Fuel Trim.
Turn OFF the engine.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Review the Freeze Frame/Failure Records and record the displayed data for this DTC.
Does the scan tool indicate that the Long Term Fuel Trim is greater than the specified value?
23%
YES - Go to Step 3
NO - Go to Diagnostic Aids
3
Operate the engine at idle.
Observe the HO2S parameter with a scan tool.
Does the scan tool indicate that the parameter is within the specified range and fluctuating?
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YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 5


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code p 0171 refers to system too lean bank 1===causes --intake /exhaust leak---air system---MAF/VAF sensor--fuel pressure / pump---injector/ s---HO2S
code p 0172 refers to system too rich, bank 1===causes --intake blocked ---EVAP canister purge valve --fuel pressure --EGR system---injector/s -=-- HO2S
code p 0173 refers to fuel trim(FT) bank 2--malfunction===causes --intake leak---air system--fuel pressure /pump---injector/s --EVAP canister purge valve---HO2S
code p 0174 refers to system too lean, bank 2===causes intake / exhaust leak---fuel pressure /pump---injector/s---Air system---hose connection/s
I was not sure if you wanted all codes or just the first and last, however you will see that there are some common problems that may help point you in the right direction
1-- is the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) which is the sensor before the cat converter
2--is the fuel pressure , so a fuel pressure test will determine if a regulator or fuel pump problem,
3--EVAP canister purge valve --replace as required
4--intake / exhaust leak --check for vacuum hose failure including hoses to vent controls and check the flexible exhaust connection before the cat converter for leaks
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PO171 means the engine is running lean(that means that the engine is getting too much oxygen rather than fuel)! Although replacing the 02 sensor has a chance of solving it, unfortunately it doesn't always do so.

Are there any symptoms? Rough running at any point? Loss in power? Idle problems?

This could be caused by many things: A vacuum leak, EVAP system not working properly, injector(s) clogged, or fuel pump/fuel filter issue.
There is also a very small chance that the O2 sensors become contaminated by certain types of silicone sealants installed in improper areas of the engine. I think that this last possibility would take a long time to show up in the computer.

Do you have access to an OBD2 scanner that shows live data? If so, I can give you more info how to try and pinpoint this problem.

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