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Freaking Ford Ford Edge SEL, transmission problems, was running fine, no issues, serviced per manufacturer schedule, then loud clunk, felt like no down shifting, was able to limp home. really harsh vibrations, got it parked. Pulled the codes. and here they are, 0657,0702,0708,0710,0713,0740,0743,0748,0750,0753,0755,0758,0760,0763,0765,0768,0770,0773,0960. Also now there is a no start issue, but I think that its because of the transmission issues. My question is this. What in the world happened to cause all these codes and how to fix it.

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  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams Apr 29, 2014

    update, bench tested the TCM, is all good, dropped cover over tcm and valve body,

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams Apr 29, 2014

    Sorry, hit wrong key. Tranny fluid very dark, has metal shavings in it, so must be some kind of hard part further inside. I may have to remove tranny and split cases.

  • Bill Boyd Apr 29, 2014

    Very dark fluid indicates very hot oil. Befor you go into the transmission proper check the torque converter for failure. In any event the box will have to be disassembled to remove all the metal as it will be in all the valves and close tolerance parts. Talk to a transmission shop with a sample of metal bits in the oil and it may be best to consider a service exchange unit including the converter as there will be metal in it that you will not get out .

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams Apr 30, 2014

    Went through valve body and all the mechanical parts look good. No broken springs, spring retainers, no broken passageways, and no broken valves.

  • Bill Boyd May 01, 2014

    The metal has to come from somewhere and if your inspection revels no failure in nthe transmission then it must be in the torque converter so the next step is to remove it and have it tested at an accredited auto transmission shop. ONe thing I omited is that when cleaning out the metal from the transmission pay attention to flushing out the oil cooler in the radiator a sthere may be metal in there that will come back to the box

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 06, 2014

    Update: Finally got the thing out of the car.. It\'s a major PITA. Torque converter is bad, I added solvent to it to remove the fluid and two things, first there are parts inside the converter that are broken, got a really loud clunks if I move it holding it flat and then rocking it side to side, alternating right hand high, left low, right low, left high. Then I did the circular motion and there is something in there that follows the low side.

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 06, 2014

    Metal bits everywhere, I had already thought of that, washing out the cooler and the lines, I still have to split cases to get to filter. Spouse is at the point where she\'s ready to trade it..

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 07, 2014

    Yep, wasn't even going that way.. Not worth the it

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 24, 2014

    Got new TCM installed, will start now. Have to schedule a time when can get it programmed. I am not happy with this Ford product, not happy at all. In fact I am so not happy with it that I shall NEVER own another Ford product made after 1980.

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First thing I would do is to pull the transmission pan to check for broken servo piston bolt/housing and any other metal bits in the pan.. Most electronics are controlled from the TCM and if the sensors for that unit are compromised then all the fault codes are likely to appear.

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  • Bill Boyd May 06, 2014

    The torque converter is totally u/s and i woulf not even thinl of repairing it . There are new ones available from transmission shops . The majour failure in torque converters is the vanes come loose and collapse into the centre causing lots of damage . The cost to split the converter ,repairs ,balance and reweld makes a new one a better proposition.

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 11, 2014

    I have also found out some additional information that I would like to pass along. This transmission was a joint venture between GM and Ford, on the GM side this tranny has been having primary wave plate breakage along with all the typical sensor, valve body, TCM issues, on the Ford side, there is never a time that I have seen a torque converter self destruct like this. I\'ve seen lots of grenaded parts but that was behind a power plant that was highly modified. I know that it may be a pain but if y\'all could please spread the word concerning these series 0f transmissions because honestly my spouse was lucky that this happened when she was at very low speed. I hate to think what would have happened if she had been on the highway at speed when this happened.

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 11, 2014

    I have went through the tranny looking for any additional damage, and other than a thrust bearing behind the converter, everything looks like one would expect for parts in a oil bath with 164K on the clock. Here are some additional notes from when I removed this transmission, looking at the space, I think that with a load spreader, a person could remove the transmission out of the engine bay from the top instead of dropping it out the bottom. If any one does this could you let me know how it works? The lifting hooks provided on this rig to support the engine via engine hoist are worthless, so I did a cheat and used a piece of flat iron and wood to support the engine from the bottom on the oil pan.

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 19, 2014

    Got everything back together, and GUESS WHAT?!?! No start..

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 19, 2014

    Next best guess, is that the TCM is dead...

  • Bill Boyd May 19, 2014

    check that you have the wires connected to the selector and that it is adjusted correctly to put the selector in the neutral or park position as it will not start if this is not correct.

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 23, 2014

    Hi Bill, I did a cheat on that, I never removed the gear selector from the tranny case, and I had marked where the shift cable attached to the shift selector so I could reassemble appropriately. I also left the gear selector in the passenger cabin in park, so to reassemble everything would have to be in the proper places. I did find that one leg of the starter relay circuit is routed through the transmission control module. My thought is that it's a "safety feature" so a no run condition if the TCM has failed. I also have found out that the PCM has to be programmed when the TCM is changed. And after that there is still a learning process for smooth shifting. In my opinion, any Ford Product that has any variation of the 6F transmission is a money pit waiting to happen.. And GM will be following along because of the same style transmission

  • Mr Williams
    Mr Williams May 24, 2014

    Got new TCM installed, will start now. Have to schedule time where I can take it in for programming. All told, not including my time, I'm over 1K in parts alone for this POS. I am SO not happy that I will never own another Ford Product made after 1980. In fact they would have to pay me to drive one!

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