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Tps prob!! wont go to high idle,tps set at 1.0 volts cant get o ohms from test a and b terminals

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Wont go to high idle
this is the IAC failing not TPS, the tps only signals to the ECU
that you are at idle.

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2003 dodge grand caravan surging and running rough when accelerating


I recommend you test the tps according to procedure below. Especially step 8. Suspect you will see drop outs in the voltage, which indicate sensor is worn out.
Operation

The Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) is mounted to the side of the throttle body and connects to the throttle blade shaft. The TPS is a variable resistor that provides the PCM with an input signal (voltage). The signal represents throttle blade position. As the position of the throttle blade changes, the resistance of the TPS changes.
The PCM supplies about 5 volts of DC current to the TPS. The TPS output voltage (input signal to the PCM) represents throttle blade position. The TPS output voltage to the PCM varies from about 0.5 volt at idle to a maximum of 4.0 volts at wide open throttle. The PCM uses the TPS input, and other sensor input, to determine current engine operating conditions. The PCM also adjusts fuel injector pulse width and ignition timing based on these inputs.
Testing

In order to perform a complete test of the TPS and related circuits, you must use a DRB or equivalent scan tool, and follow the manufacturers directions. To check the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) only, proceed with the following tests.
  1. Visually check the connector, making sure it is attached properly and that all of the terminals are straight, tight and free of corrosion.
  2. The TPS can be tested using a digital ohmmeter. The center terminal of the sensor supplies the output voltage. The outer terminal with the violet/white wire is the 5-volt supply terminal and the black/light blue wire is the sensor ground terminal.
  3. Connect the DVOM between the center terminal and sensor ground.
  4. With the ignition key to the ON position and the engine OFF, check the output voltage at the center terminal wire of the connector.
  5. Check the output voltage at idle and at Wide Open Throttle (WOT):
  6. For 1996 vehicles at idle, the TPS output voltage should be greater than 0.35 volt (0.4 volt for the 2.4L engine). At WOT, the output voltage should be less than 4.5 volts (3.8 volts for the 2.4L engine).
  7. For 1997 and later vehicles at idle, the TPS output voltage should be about 0.38-1.20 volts. At WOT, the output voltage should be about 3.1-4.4 volts.
  8. The output voltage should gradually increase as the throttle plate moves slowly from idle to WOT.
  9. If voltage measures outside these values, replace the TPS.
  10. Before replacing the TPS, check for spread terminals and also inspect the PCM connections.

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Jul 26, 2017 | Dodge Cars & Trucks

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How do I adjust TPS on 03 corolla


Please check the video ....it is nicely explained

Jan 11, 2015 | 2003 Toyota Corolla

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94 Jeep Cherokee TPS - back feed


You are still getting high or low voltage at tps? What is the voltage and do you have a unstable idle? Put you + lead on terminal 3 and - lead on terminal 1 turn ignition on and check voltage to be at approximately 5 volts. You can also back probe with it connected at center wire and ground probe to a good ground at engine. Turn ignition on it should read between 0.20 - 0.90 slowly manually open throttle it should rise all the way to 4.5 voltd at full open. If its bad change tps if no 5.0 volts from pcm on first test check connections at pcm. The center tps connector supply wire comes from pin 22 and connection 3 ( which is 5 volt supply ) comes from pin 6. You should be able to back probe pin 6 turn ignition on and have 5 volts. If not 5 v brain has problem.

Sep 08, 2014 | 1994 Jeep Cherokee

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What are the parameters in ohms for the 1994 probe se tps ?


They are easier to test on the car 3 wires 1) 5 volt reference 1) signal return (testing this wire) last wire is ground. place + lead of a volt meter on the signal return wire with key on engine off negative lead on block or battery resting closed throttle should .3 to .8 volts slowly increase throttle opening and watch meter it should increase without voltage ever going lower E.G 1.0,1.1,1.2,1.3,.09,1.5 the .09 is a drop sensor bad this should continue to wide open throttle with a ending reading of 4.95 and above voltage. rdo this several times to catch a glitch.

May 11, 2014 | 1994 Ford Probe

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I have a 94 blazer and the check engine soon light came on and shortly after it started hesitating when i would hit the gas


Hi, the problem may be at the TPS or the MAP sensor. First extract the trouble code following instructions below. Then troubleshoot the indicated signals/sensors.


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Fig. Fig. 1: ALDL connector-1994 models

Listings of the trouble for the various engine control system covered in this guide are located in this section. Remember that a code only points to the faulty circuit NOT necessarily to a faulty component. Loose, damaged or corroded connections may contribute to a fault code on a circuit when the sensor or component is operating properly. Be sure that the components are faulty before replacing them, especially the expensive ones. The Assembly Line Diagnostic Link (ALDL) connector or Data Link Connector (DLC) may be located under the dash and sometimes covered with a plastic cover labeled DIAGNOSTIC CONNECTOR.

  1. On all 1994 models the diagnostic trouble codes can be read by grounding test terminal B . The terminal is most easily grounded by connecting it to terminal A (internal ECM ground). This is the terminal to the right of terminal B on the top row of the ALDL connector.
  2. Only 1995 models equipped with a PCM use the OBD I system. All other 1995 and later models use the OBD II system. The diagnostic trouble codes on 1995 OBD I systems can be read by grounding test terminal 6 . The terminal is most easily grounded by connecting it to terminal 5 (internal ECM ground).
  3. Once the terminals have been connected, the ignition switch must be moved to the ON position with the engine not running.
  4. The Service Engine Soon or Check Engine light should be flashing. If it isn't, turn the ignition OFF and remove the jumper wire. Turn the ignition ON and confirm that light is now on. If it is not, replace the bulb and try again. If the bulb still will not light, or if it does not flash with the test terminal grounded, the system should be diagnosed by an experienced driveability technician. If the light is OK, proceed as follows.
  5. The code(s) stored in memory may be read through counting the flashes of the dashboard warning lamp. The dash warning lamp should begin to flash Code 12. The code will display as one flash, a pause and two flashes. Code 12 is not a fault code. It is used as a system acknowledgment or handshake code; its presence indicates that the VCM can communicate as requested. Code 12 is used to begin every diagnostic sequence. Some vehicles also use Code 12 after all diagnostic codes have been sent.
  6. After Code 12 has been transmitted 3 times, the fault codes, if any, will each be transmitted 3 times. The codes are stored and transmitted in numeric order from lowest to highest.
The order of codes in the memory does not indicate the order of occurrence.
  1. If there are no codes stored, but a driveability or emissions problem is evident, the system should be diagnosed by an experienced driveability technician.
  2. If one or more codes are stored, record them. Refer to the applicable Diagnostic Code chart in this section.
  3. Switch the ignition OFF when finished with code retrieval or scan tool readings.
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MAP sensor tests:
TESTINGSee Figures 1, 2 and 3

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Fig. Fig. 1: Typical Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor wiring diagram (wire color, terminal identification/location may vary on certain models)

  1. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at MAP sensor terminals A and C .
  2. With the key ON and engine off, the voltmeter reading should be approximately 5.0 volts.
  3. If the voltage is not as specified, either the wiring to the MAP sensor or the VCM may be faulty. Correct any wiring or VCM faults before continuing test.
  4. Backprobe with the high impedance voltmeter at MAP sensor terminals B and A .
  5. Verify that the sensor voltage is approximately 0.5 volts with the engine not running (at sea level).
  6. Record MAP sensor voltage with the key ON and engine off.
  7. Start the vehicle.
  8. Verify that the sensor voltage is greater than 1.5 volts (above the recorded reading) at idle.
  9. Verify that the sensor voltage increases to approximately 4.5. volts (above the recorded reading) at Wide Open Throttle (WOT).
  10. If the sensor voltage is as specified, the sensor is functioning properly.
  11. If the sensor voltage is not as specified, check the sensor and the sensor vacuum source for a leak or a restriction. If no leaks or restrictions are found, the sensor may be defective and should be replaced.
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Fig. Fig. 2: Using jumper wires and a high impedance voltmeter test between MAP sensor terminals A and C with the key ON and engine off. The voltage should be approximately 5 volts


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Fig. Fig. 3: Next test between MAP sensor terminals A and B with the key ON and engine off. The voltage should be approximately 0.5 volts

MAP sensor
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Throttle position sensor test
TESTINGSee Figures 1, 2 and 3

  1. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at TPS ground terminal and 5 volt reference signal terminal.
  2. With the key ON and engine off, the voltmeter reading should be approximately 5.0 volts.
  3. If the voltage is not as specified, either the wiring to the TPS or the VCM may be faulty. Correct any wiring or VCM faults before continuing test.
  4. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at the TP signal terminal and the sensor ground terminal.
  5. With the key ON and engine off and the throttle closed, the TPS voltage should be approximately 0.5-1.2 volts.
  6. Verify that the TPS voltage increases or decreases smoothly as the throttle is opened or closed. Make sure to open and close the throttle very slowly in order to detect any abnormalities in the TPS voltage reading.
  7. If the sensor voltage is not as specified, replace the sensor.
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Fig. Fig. 1: Common Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) wiring diagram (wire color, terminal identification/location may vary on certain models)





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Fig. Fig. 2: Using jumper wires and high impedance voltmeter, test between the sensor ground and reference terminals, the voltage should be approximately 5 volts


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Fig. Fig. 3: Next test between the sensor signal and ground terminals, verify that the TPS voltage increases or decreases smoothly as the throttle is opened or closed

Oct 01, 2011 | 1994 Chevrolet S-10 Blazer

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Po123 04 kai


Hello www_ropesmor,

This code P0123 is Throttle position sensor circuit high input.

There four basic reasons for this code.

1. An open or short to ground between the TPS (throttle position sensor) and the ECM (Engine control module).
2. A short to battery voltage between TPS and the ECM.
3. A short between the TPS wires.
4. A faulty TPS.

See below for connector diagrams.

First, with scan tool monitor TPS with throttle closed voltage should be
I f you don't have a scan tool, back probe terminal 1with a volt meter to ground and you will see the voltage as outlined above otherwise follow the steps below.


1.Check to see if there is about 5 volts at the TPS; with engine off key on disconnect the TPS back probe the harness side terminal 3 to ground with a volt meter if there is about 5 volts go to step 2 if about 5 volts if not repair the 5 volt circuit.

2. Probe the harness side terminal 2 to chassis ground with a volt meter, if voltage above .02 repair circuit 2 short to voltage. If voltage is .02 volts or below go to step 3.

3. Probe the harness side terminal 1 to ground with volt meter if below .5 volts go to step 4 if not repair short to battery between TSP harness and ECM connector

4 Turn the ignition off and disconnect the ECM connector . With an ohm meter measure the resistance between the ECM (terminal C18) and TPS ground circuit it should be below 1 ohm. Measure the resistance between the ECM (terminal C8) and TPS signal circuit it should be below 1 ohm. If not repair the open circuit.

After faulty circuit is found and repaired clear code and verify repair.

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I hope this helps.

Regards,

netvan

Aug 15, 2011 | 2004 Kia Optima

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When i punch on the gass my 97 tahoe hesitates


usually a bad MAP sensor or TPS. I would test both. Let me know if you have questions and provide test results for repair advice.

MAP Sensor TESTING
See Figures 3, 4 and 5
  1. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at MAP sensor terminals A and C.
  2. With the key ON and engine off, the voltmeter reading should be approximately 5.0 volts.
  3. If the voltage is not as specified, either the wiring to the MAP sensor or the ECM may be faulty. Correct any wiring or ECM faults before continuing test.
  4. Backprobe with the high impotence voltmeter at MAP sensor terminals B and A.
  5. Verify that the sensor voltage is approximately 0.5 volts with the engine not running (at sea level).
  6. Record MAP sensor voltage with the key ON and engine off.
  7. Start the vehicle.
  8. Verify that the sensor voltage is greater than 1.5 volts (above the recorded reading) at idle.
  9. Verify that the sensor voltage increases to approximately 4.5. volts (above the recorded reading) at Wide Open Throttle (WOT).
  10. If the sensor voltage is as specified, the sensor is functioning properly.
  11. If the sensor voltage is not as specified, check the sensor and the sensor vacuum source for a leak or a restriction. If no leaks or restrictions are found, the sensor may be defective and should be replaced.



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Fig. Fig. 3: Location of the MAP sensor-TBI system shown


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Fig. Fig. 4: Probe the terminals of the MAP sensor to check for proper reference voltage


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Fig. Fig. 5: Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor wiring diagram








TPS TESTINGSee Figures 2, 3 and 4

  1. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at TPS terminals A and B.
  2. With the key ON and engine off, the voltmeter reading should be approximately 5.0 volts.
  3. If the voltage is not as specified, either the wiring to the TPS or the ECM may be faulty. Correct any wiring or ECM faults before continuing test.
  4. Backprobe with a high impedance voltmeter at terminals C and B.
  5. With the key ON and engine off and the throttle closed, the TPS voltage should be approximately 0.5-1.2 volts.
  6. Verify that the TPS voltage increases or decreases smoothly as the throttle is opened or closed. Make sure to open and close the throttle very slowly in order to detect any abnormalities in the TPS voltage reading.
  7. If the sensor voltage is not as specified, replace the sensor.



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Fig. Fig. 2: Using a DVOM, backprobe terminals A and B of the TPS sensor to check for proper reference voltage


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Fig. Fig. 3: Using the DVOM, backprobe terminals C and B of the TPS sensor, open and close the throttle and make sure the voltage changes smoothly


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Fig. Fig. 4: Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) wiring diagram

May 30, 2011 | Chevrolet Tahoe Cars & Trucks

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1988 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 auto trans. 4x4. My Son drove Jeep for several months, brought it back because it was not running good. Done some testing found the TPS was bad, changed TPS and now it idles fine,...


the tps is not adjustable,
its 1v at idle and 4vdc at wot
its not the TPS.,
it has 3 pins, its just a pot, (a variable resistors is all it is and is cruede)
1 pin is ground. 0v
one pin is 5v, (about) and is POWER> 4.5 to 5.5v typ
the output pin is 1v to 4v, as you advance throttle it does that 1 to 4 gradually.
end TPS , guessing, its autolearned each key on.
i see you are reading the wrong Jeep books, its a 1988 not 1992 to 95

we cant tell you all the tests, and if no tools to do them be silly to pretend you do.. on the beach.
but if timing is off its off. the crank flywheel markes are fixed so those cant be changed,
but the distributor is not spark timed its injector sync timed
so your guess, is wrong, but if was messed with its a impossible for you to correct it lacking a scan tool.


the only words you posted that help are
it starts to move, then give it a little more gas and it Hesitates and stalls unless I give it about half throttle. but totally left off does engine have full power at wide open throttle
if not
then the fuel pressure is way too low.
or cat melted.
or map sensor, vacuum port clogged.

Mar 12, 2017 | 1998 Jeep Cherokee

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Adjustable throttle position sensor


I'm assuming you have the 3.3l v-6. When I look up the part, it seems to have slotted holes. Therefore, it is designed to be adjusted after installation. If your tps has these slotted bolt holes, adjust it to satisfy the settings in the test procedure below.
  1. Remove air cleaner. Disconnect the TPS harness from the TPS.
  2. Using suitable jumper wires, connect a digital voltmeter J-29125-A or equivalent to the correct TPS terminals A and B.
  3. With the ignition ON and the engine running, The TPS voltage should be 0.3-1.0 volts at base idle to approximately 4.5 volts at wide open throttle.
  4. If the reading on the TPS is out of specification, check the minimum idle speed before replacing the TPS.
  5. If the voltage reading is correct, remove the voltmeter and jumper wires and reconnect the TPS connector to the sensor.
  6. Reinstall the air cleaner.

Jul 29, 2017 | 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera

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Car starts has no power until the gas pedal is almost to the floor. In 2nd the tach is at 3500 rpm and won't shift until i let up on the gas. It also hesitates and is using more gas than usuall.


Check the TPS (Throttle position sensor) wire lead and replace the TPS if any signs of damage or failure.

The Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) is used to send input signals to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) to indicate the current angle of the throttle blade.

Theory/Operation:
This sensor is a variable resistor that has a 5 volt reference signal applied to it by the PCM. The TPS sends signals back to the PCM in the range of approximately 1 to 4 volts, depending upon the throttle shaft angle. The PCM uses these input voltages to determine the current position of the throttle.
The PCM uses the voltage signals from the TPS and other input sensors to determine the proper air/fuel mixture and ignition timing for certain operating conditions. Some of these operating conditions are: acceleration, deceleration, idle, and wide open throttle.


Typical Readings:
An input voltage of approximately 1 volt indicates a minimum throttle opening, idle, or deceleration condition. An input voltage of approximately 2 volts indicates a cruise or light acceleration condition. An input voltage of approximately 4 volts would indicate a maximum throttle opening or wide open throttle condition.
NOTE: The following procedure tests the TPS only.
  1. The TPS can be tested with an analog voltmeter. The center terminal of the TPS is the output terminal.
  2. With the ignition key in the ON position, check the TPS output voltage at the center terminal wire of the connector. Check this at idle (throttle plate closed), and at wide open throttle (WOT).
    • At idle, TPS output voltage should be approximately one volt. The output voltage should increase gradually as the throttle plate is slowly opened from idle to WOT.
    • At wide open throttle, TPS output should be approximately 4.5 volts.
As always, check the service manual for the proper procedures and specifications for your particular vehicle.

Thank you using Fixya and good luck.

Mar 08, 2010 | 2002 Oldsmobile Alero

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