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Timing chain and distributor

We replaced the timing chain and distributor on the van and now it won't fre. It had a bad camshaft angle sensor which is part of the distributor so we replaced it. the check engine light went off but it won't even fire. is it the timing needing set or what?

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Ouch, I would start by verifying you didn't miss setup your timing. It could be off by one or two sprocket locations or off by 180 deg. You might have to pull the #1 spark plug to verify that.

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SOURCE: Engine runs rough after about ten minutes /idles really low

Just trowing some suggestions out there, but, I would check the idle air control valve (solenoid) or the throttle position sensor. If they check out then my last guess would be the map sensor or the vaccuum to the map sensor. Hope I was able to help. Best wishes.

Posted on Jan 17, 2009

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SOURCE: I cant find a detailed picture of where the location is to check these items.

The crankshaft position sensor is located on the transmission bell housing on the right side (if you're facing the engine from the transmission side). The camshaft position sensor is towards the top center of the timing cover on the front of the motor. They both have 3 wire connectors that are virtually identical.

Posted on Apr 18, 2009

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SOURCE: Engine not hitting on two cylinders after replacing cam sensor

If you have a coil pack with 6 cyl. 3 coils in one One coil for 2 cylinders One of the coils in the pack has gone bad. To verify this check which cyliders are missing and see if they match any pair on the coil pack. If so the coil should be replaced. Hope this helped. Moe

Posted on Apr 28, 2009

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SOURCE: Distributor assembly/camshaft sensor for 2000 Grand Voyager

You can replace just the cam sensor, I've done it, but it's kind of a delicate job. You have take apart the distributor to do it, it's not hard to do, you just have to have a little mechanical aptitude. If he's intimidated by this type of thing, you can always get a used one. I think I could probably buy a whole van for $1200.

Posted on May 05, 2009

SOURCE: 1996 Voyager van has check engine light on, will

First thing, and it costs nothing, is clean the throttle body interior thoroughly. Lift the throttle plate with your fingers and make that interior spotless, pay special attention to the rim of the throttle plate too. OK check out how it runs. If the problem is still there have a garage or Autozone do a code read from on the on-board diagnostics (OBD). If the car is exhibiting rough engine running I would check spark plug condition and the efficiency of the spark plug holders/leads. If when the car stalls does it start up directly or is it reluctant. If the former, change the cam sensor and if the latter, change the crank sensor. Both sensors when faulty also give rise to intermittent misfire events. At the age of your vehicle I would replace both as an insurance policy as they both have finite life. If no codes show on OBD replace the O2 sensor on the exhaust manifold. O2 sensors deteriorate with age and often give problems before the on OBD can detect them. The fact that you have a CEL also indicates an emission fault which points to an O2 sensor signal outside of normal range.

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