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Wayne Kamenarz Posted on Mar 15, 2014
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Cam shaft position sensor

I replaced the sensor and drove it for about an hour it got hot and started to do the exact same thing as befor the part was replaced. it gets hot and starts chugging ang bogs down and quits. The check engine light comes on and says cam shaft position sensor. what could it be?

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Testimonial: "2004 Kia Sedona tryed the Cam shift position sensor. not helpful. What about the Mass air flow sensor?"

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  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Mar 16, 2014

    No if a sensor is getting hot then its getting a electrical feed or something being backfed down the wires ,it cannot get hot without a current in it as it only produces micro volts ,is the sensor touching the gearwheel causing friction ,is the timing belt ok and not breaking up with bit stuck to the gear wheel rubbing on the sensor

  • Wayne Kamenarz
    Wayne Kamenarz Mar 16, 2014

    Thank you I isolated then insulated it drove it again till hot same thing happened.Any new ideas?

  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Mar 17, 2014

    None at all but disconnect the multiplug and then see if their is any voltage in the supply cables ,this is in case the ECU is faulty and its supplying a voltage to the sensor is all i can think of at the moment

  • Wayne Kamenarz
    Wayne Kamenarz Mar 26, 2014

    Thanks for the help. It ended up being a couple of things, crankshaft sensor, reluctor wheel,one coil on # 4causing the misfire. That seemed to fix all problems.Thanks for all inputs.

  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Mar 27, 2014

    very difficult to diagnose things like this from afar ,its the cam sensor getting hot that bothered me as never had this before

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 06, 2009

SOURCE: mechanic says camshaft sensor needs replace; however the car runs fine. Check engine light comes on sporatically.

Agreed with thundergod - I had a failed cam sensor on my Audi A4 that made no discernable difference in the car's operation, but changing it and resetting the light fixed the problem.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 28, 2009

SOURCE: crank shaft sesor/cam sensor problem?

If you had a fault with the crank sencer your car would not start.Sounds like the air flow meter is giving you the problems.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 24, 2009

SOURCE: 2005 Dodge Stratus ? Camshaft Position Sensor causing problems (I

I had the same problem with my '05 Stratus SXT 2.4 DOHC. I've replaced the cam pos sensor and it seems to be running fine right now. On the Dodge forums a lot of the guys say that you need to replace the crank pos sensor too. I've bought one of those just in case it comes back again. Hope this helps.

honeymokey

honeymokey

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  • Posted on Aug 20, 2009

SOURCE: 1995 Buick LaSabre stalls while driving, but will

Clean battery cables and replace bolts. The cam sensor manet will not cause it to cut off.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 22, 2010

SOURCE: Car would not start, after siiting for an hour it did start .

mcdevito75 here, BEST BET, let the shop do this work, too many un forseen problems could come up. The stalling and unable to start for a while could also be a bad ignition module, no test for this part, but I would have it changed, for if it is a bad ignition module, all this other work will not fix the stalling and later start of your car.

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Could po320 be drive shaft speed sensor

code p 0320 refers to crankshaft position (CKP) sensor /engine speed (RPM) sensor---circuit malfunction====causes --wiring--CKP/RPM sensor ---ECM check the wiring to the crank position sensor
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CMP - Cam shaft Position Sensor

<p><b><span>3.2) <span> </span><u>CMP - Cam shaft Position </u>(sensor)<u> </u></span></b><br /> <p><b><u><br /></u></b><br /> <p><b><span>What is it?</span></b><span><span> </span>This electrical device is very similar in concept to the crank position sensor (above) in that it detects the position of the rotation of a shaft, in this instance the cam shaft.<span> </span>It is the cam shaft signal that indicates to the ECU that cylinder one is at top dead centre at compression and in the process provides the ECU with the timing reference for fuel injection.<span> </span>The cam shaft sensor provides extra information, to that of the crank sensor, to fine tune timed events such as injection and spark delivery.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><span>Where is it located?</span></b><span> The location of this device depends on the design and age of engine.<span> </span>On many modern overhead cam shaft engines the cam shaft sensor is located either on the end, or to the side of the end, of the cam shaft housing.<span> </span>On older pushrod engines the cam sensor is found where the distributor would once have been located.<span> </span>This type sensor assembly makes use of the distributor shaft meshing directly, at its bottom end, with a gear on the cam within the engine block.<span> </span>In this respect the distributor shaft is just an extension of the cam shaft.<span> </span>On the top end of this distributor shaft is a magnetic armature.<span> </span>The cam shaft sensor, that measures the movement of this armature, is located in the cover and uses either magnetic or 'Hall effect' pickup modules.<span> </span></span><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <p><b><span>How does it work?</span></b><span><span> </span>The sensor detects the position of a magnet or set of teeth on the gear on the end of the cam.<span> </span>An electrical waveform output signal is sent to the ECU as the cam turns.<span> </span>The cam sensor tells the ECU that cylinder 1 is at TDC on its compression stroke prior to ignition. <span> </span>The cam sensor ensures the correct timing of the fuel injection cycle.<span> </span>If the timing belt ever jumps a tooth on the cam the lack of agreement between the respective signals from the cam and crank sensors is indicated as an error condition by the ECU. </span><br /> <p><b><u><span><span> </span></span></u></b><br /> <p><b><u><span>Symptoms of faulty cam sensor</span></u></b><br /> <p><b><span>Associated OBD2 error codes DTCs: <span> </span>P0341 - P0349; P1345</span></b><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <ul> <li><b><span>Hesitant acceleration - </span></b><span>miss-timing of fuel injection due to a faulty CMP can cause intermittent loss of power.<b></b></span></li> <li><b><span>Starting difficulty/failure.<span> </span></span></b><span>If the faulty CMP timing problems are severe they may cause the engine not fire at all, or to fire and then stall, or stall at some random time without warning.<b></b></span></li> <li><b><span>Hot engine stall and failure to restart - </span></b><span>Sometimes the fault of the CSS only manifests itself when the engine is hot.<span> </span>Over time thermal stress can cause cracking and can weaken electrical junctions within the CMP.<span> </span>The CMP may work well at cold start up but can then cause a hot running engine to stop with little chance of restart whilst the engine is still hot;<span> </span>once cooled the down the engine may readily restart and again run for a limited period until hot.</span></li></ul> <p><b><u><span>Note </span></u></b><span>The cam sensor body often protrudes into the cam shaft gallery and when it's 'o' ring seal<span> </span>becomes age hardened, engine oil may leak back into the sensor electrical socket plug connector causing errors due to interruption of signal. </span><br /> <p><b><span> </span></b><br /> <p><b><span>How to check? </span></b><span>It is not technically<b> </b>easy<b> </b>to determine that the CMP is at fault and, like the crank sensor, may require the use of an oscilloscope.<span> </span>If it is part of a sophisticated on board diagnostics system its failure may be logged as a specific error code in the ECU. Due to the variability problems with engine running are often experienced well before any error codes are set by the ECU.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><span><span> </span>2 pin socket (magnetic - sine wave output).<span> </span>One pin is 'ground' the other is 'signal'.<span> </span>A voltmeter set to 2 volts AC should measure a signal in the 0.2 to 2 volts range on the 'signal' pin.</span><br /> <p><span><span> </span>3 pin socket (Hall effect, magneto - square wave form output).<span> </span>One pin is 'reference' (5volts), one pin is 'ground' and the third pin is 'signal'.<span> </span>A DC voltage should be detectable in the 0.5 to 1.5 volt range from the 'signal' pin.</span><br /> <p><span>It is important that the voltage measurement take place at start up when the engine is cold and again, 20 minutes later, when the engine has fully warmed up to operating temperature. Often the voltage output from faulty sensors declines with temperature rise.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><span>How to fix?<span> </span></span></b><span>If the CMP failure is due oil leakage into the electrical connector then a thorough clean and a renewal of the oil seal on the CMP may correct the situation.<span> </span>It can be a wise precaution to change the connecting cable as oil migration beneath the insulation may possibly contaminate components at some distance to the CMP.<span> </span></span><br /> <p><span>If the CMP has an internal fault then it must be replaced.</span><br />
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check for wiring problems then replace that sensor , ensuring that you have the correct air gap to the rotor clearance I suspect it is a wiring problem as I am guessing in that finding the sensor you were moving the harness around to see where it was and to get to it
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