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2001 acura mdx wont start. cant hear fuel pump.

Replaced main fuel pump relay and it does click but fuel pump does not come on. fuses r good. can i jumper 2 wires at the relay to test the fuel pump?

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Going backwards, ? (yes, i to check volts first) but...
you check fuel pressure cranking, (is press in spec or not?)
the FSM covers this, 1/.2 the cars only get pump activation,,
cranking and running, never just key on (the fsm shows this fact, i didnt look for you)
Yours is older loop system, not dead head.
there are 5 test just for the pump, (actually more)
pressure cranking and running, (leakdown test and injector balance tests and shut test for loop version) on V6 that 6 +4 ,10 total tests.
once the gauge is in place we do all 10s tests on v6.

ok say my pressure spec. is 40psi cranking and i get 10.?

spec: 32-40 running, pSI, vac, hose conn. (cranking will be more)
in loop systems the cranking pressure is about 10 PSI more.
after it starts, the vacuum sucks pressure from say 50psi to 40.
(its also altitude compensating)

Voltage checks, (any voltmeter)
use a voltmeter to see if full power reaches the pump.
i check voltage and its 8v. (bad) cranking volts can be near 11v due
to battery load, 200amps or so... what i do is measure battery crank
voltage and expect same to pump , using the 0.5v rule. (drop)
the connector over here to pump is all corroded. ,,
fix that and bam, now full presssure
or i find a bad fuel pump relay, replace that and bam.
or i find 0v, to pump.
i find relay bad. (simple tests on relay) (its not bad ECU)
ok i find 12v. at pump. so what is wrong?, i check my fuel pressure
regulator at the fuel rail, its stuck wide open because the shunt test
passed (one of 4 tests above) so new reg and bam, 40psi to rail.
i can test the reg with my hand vacuum tool that all shops have.
i can see pressure, running and cranking and check fuel pressure
with no vacuum (50psi?) then pump it to say 20 "hg (simulates idle)
and see 40 pSI, and check the diaphram for leak down.
my reg was bad.
there are other tests:
1: fuel pump current. (if excessive, its a bad pump)
2: scope test or use a current probe on pump and see it spiking
like made, , it has bad commutator and will die so.

there great videos on all this at. Duane's site.

check the pump cranking

do not hot wire the fuel pump relay
if you slip 1/.8" you blow up a nice $400 ECU, (or more)
the ECU drives this relay (with a transistor, you dont want to explode)
if you feel compelled to hot wire things, disconnect the pump
and hot wire that.
now the relay.
it has 4 pins 12vdc in, 12vdc out to pump (contacts)
and 2 coil pins.
you put your meter to coil pins (across) i get 12v to coil cranking and running, that is the ECU working right
i get 12vdc in and zero out the contacts, the relay is bad.
lets say you see 3v out, that can be a shorted pump. or wire grounded out to pump. I check the current with my amp clamp and see 15amps
the pump is bad. most draw 4-6amps. normal.
i keep an open mind, what is bad, its only the pump 1/2 the time
or less. maybe 1/3? (reg, pump, wires and friends)
corroded connectors big time...some even burned up.

Posted on Feb 09, 2014


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