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1997 Dodge 1500 Club Cab 4X4, automatic transmission with 125K miles with TRANSMISSION Problem. Driving on the highway in 2WD and all of a sudden the vehicle stalls. I coast to a stop, put in park and attempt to start. Vehicle acts like the battery is dead (slow turn over). Open hood to inspect Alt belt, battery, fluids, etc. No noticeable issues. Got back in truck (5 minutes) and the truck started up just fine. Put in gear and the vehicle would not move IN ANY GEAR. Tried OD on/off with no affect. Tried 4-WD low and high with no affect. Vehicle would not moved. Towed home. Mechanic hook analyzer but captured NO fault codes. NOTE: with vehicle running in gear the vehicle when being pushed manually will only roll about 1 foot before it stops as if something is preventing it from rolling--in neutral this is not an issue and the vehicle rolls fine. Any suggestions? Never had a problem with vehicle or transmission. I suspect it is either electrical, vaccum or linkage (not likely). Inspected under carraige and found no noticeable issues. Vehicle starts every time with no issue. Any suggestions on what the transmission problem could be?

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  • ray_wilkens Jun 04, 2009

    1. Fluid level is ok or reasonablly close.
    2. It happened going down road. Lost upshifts and all gears.
    3. Fluid is not burned (still red) or obvious metal (would have to analyze)
    4. No problems had been noted previouslly.
    5. Vehicle is a 97 Dodge automatic.
    These are all true however, I am suspect that the fluid level was high (1/2 quart). Had transmission serviced 400 miles ago and it appears they may have put 5 quarts in and not 4.5.



    Will attempt "line pressure" lose troubleshooting recommendations tonight along with ensuring shift linkage cable that there was no issue with it.

  • ray_wilkens Jun 05, 2009

    There was no abnormal operation prior to the vehicle stalling, pulling over, reattempt to start and then no movement with transmission.



  • ray_wilkens Jun 05, 2009

    No corrosion on any connections.



    I am suspecting the trans was over serviced 400 miles ago and high fluid level has caused the damage/malfunction.



    Any other baby steps in troubleshooting I can take before having it towed into a shop?

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Ok when the tranny was over filled that meens there is more presure that builds up so what happened it blew out your tranny so what is hapening is it goes in gear so it wont move but it wont drive because the inside is like a maze that directs pressure when the pressure buils up the vehicle moves it acts like a clutch thats why when you push on the brakes the car dosnt die it was the service station that ruened your tranny.

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Sound like you might have a problem with your transfer case, which of course handles the shifting from 2 wheel to 4 wheel drive. If the transfer case locks up then the wheels lock, in neutral it works because in neutral the transfer case is not engaged.

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By the looks of it, the tranny may be the source of the problem. Normally error codes would only detect errors from the engine and not from the tranny.

Was there any indication of an issue, say erratic idling before the problem occurred or gear would not seem to bite after going to drive?

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  • Nicolo Carlo Parazo Jun 05, 2009

    Some people when they had similar issues, the culprit is a seal which may not be holding the pressure in some cases this can get corroded and eventualy lead to spilling of the oil.



    I suggest also to start with simple items such as the cable to from the transmission to the wiring loom if they are connected properly or if there are any which may cause the short. In some cases (not necessarily a Dodge) cleaning the solenid will help as the soleniod sends the signal to the tranny for the correct gear change.



    One of the worst case that may happen is a busted torque converter.

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Hi,
There is a nice answer by one of the dodge engineer regarding this stalling problem or when the vehicle does not move in any gear :-
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Before condemning the transmission, I would check the shift cable for proper operation. Look at the side of the transmission where the shift cable attaches. Have someone shift the transmission from PARK to FIRST. The engine should not be running. If the operating lever on the transmission moves, then you probably do have an internal transmission problem.
A bad Transmission Control Module (TCM) would not keep it from shifting. In the event of a bad TCM, the transmission would go into fail safe mode and you could continue driving the vehicle.
Thanks.

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    taran_2005 Jun 04, 2009

    There might be some other points to keep in mind :-




    Way to much consveration without success.
    1. Fluid level is ok or reasonablly close.
    2. It happened going down road. Lost upshifts and all gears.
    3. Fluid is not burned (still red) or obvious metal (would have to analyze)
    4. No problems had been noted previouslly.
    5. Vehicle is a 97 Dodge automatic.
    If the above is correct.
    You have lost line pressure.
    It might go forward or reverse ocassionally.
    A simple test for pressure regulator stuck open. Rev engine in neutral to as high as you have ever reved. Let throttle off quickly. Repeat 4 or five times.
    Shift into drive or reverse normally. It might go.
    What you are doing. By reving engine in neutral you increase oil flow past a stuck open(?) regulator valve. Perhaps moving it from stuck position to futher open. By letting throttle off quickly, you are decreasing oil flow quickly and perhaps regulator valve will pop closed and start working and generating line pressure and move vehicle.
    If this does not work. 1. A badly stuck valve in valve body could still be cause. 2. The drive lugs on oil pump could have sheared and lost oil flow. 3. The splines on input could have sheared. 4. In any case it is gonna have to come out for inspection.



    Any further help, let me know.

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