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02 ford excursion

Gauges not working, checked fuses and they are fine. new alter. can not find what is wrong.I left my key on and ran down the battery. after jumpering it I noticed that none of the gages, windows, radio, tail lights and some of the lights on the dash did not work. I checked specific fuses and they are ok. Is there a master ckt braker that kills power to these items?

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  • garyw148 May 27, 2009

    Your solution to my problem is to take it to the dealer?

    My wife could tell me that.

    Not an acceptable answer for the fee you charge.

  • garyw148 May 28, 2009

    I am still facing a problem where, my windows will not work, all the gauges and some of the dash lights do not work and the radio does not work. Also I do not get a chime or ring noise if I do not fasten my seat belt or I leave the key in the ignition.

    I checked the window C-Bkr and the fuses to the other items and they are good but they do not have power to either side of the fuse. I talked to the dealer and he is stumped so far. But for $$$ per hour he can start trouble shooting.

    It is not a anti-theft item, the vehicle runs fine except for the windows and etc. not working.

  • garyw148 May 28, 2009

    Thanks for the reply, any chance you know the identfier location of these relays. There are 7 relays in my diesel excursion and they are numbered 301 through 307. I have switched each one out with one of the others ie 301 and 304 were changed with each other and etc. with no luck. Unless all 7 went bad? There are also 5 more of the same part number relays under the hood and I even switched thes around.

  • garyw148 May 28, 2009

    Ginko, thanks for all your efforts. I have solved the problem. As it turns out there is a fuseable link in the engine compartment. It is on the drivers side and mounted to the top of the fender well.

    Again thank you for trying and givine me all the info that you did.


  • garyw148 May 29, 2009

    The solution was not on track but sent me in the right direction and the author offered a lot of help.




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Thank you very much sir.for keeping updated.thanks.please do rate the solution.thank you for using fixya.please accept the rating it.
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The relay for the power windows is located in the instrument panel relay module , under the dash on the drivers side. There is a black plastic with the relays in there.
Checkconnection to relay box as this can also affect the gauges on the instrument panel.

Check also the battery saver relay, as that can cause multiple problems. The battery saver relay should be also located in relay box under the dash.

If you DIY , then get a copy of the repair manual with diagrams and illustrated repair procedure for your vehicle.

See the following if you want to buy the repair manual:

Ford Excursion Repair Manual

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Posted on May 28, 2009

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    Ginko May 28, 2009

    The windows motor relay is numbered 601, and it is located under the dash.

    Here the complete Relay/Fuse Map:


    1 15A* Adjustable pedals
    2 20A* Power point - floor console
    3 20A* Power point – 3rd row
    4 20A* Power point - I/P
    5 20A* Power point - right rear quarter
    6 20A* Trailer tow turn/stop relay
    7 30A* High beam headlamps / Flash to pass
    8 15A* Backup lamps ( Diesel engine only)
    9 20A* Heated mirrors
    10 10A* A/C clutch
    11 20A* Radio (main)
    12 20A* Cigar lighter/OBD II
    13 5A* Power mirrors/switches
    14 15A* Daytime running lamps (DRL)
    15 10A* Driver’s seat module memory
    16 15A* Rear seat controller
    17 15A* Exterior lamps
    18 20A* Turn lamps/ Brake on-off switch (high)
    19 10A* Body Security Module (BSM)/4x4
    20 10A* Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM)
    relay ( Diesel engine only)
    21 25A* Rear smart wiper motor
    22 20A* Engine control
    23 20A* Engine control (gasoline engine only),
    Climate control ( Diesel engine only)
    24 2A* Brake pressure switch/Speed control
    25 10A* 4- Wheel Anti-Lock Brake System
    (4WABS) module, Variable Fan
    Control (VFC) ( Diesel engine only)
    26 10A* Airbags
    27 15A* Ignition switch Run feed
    28 10A* EATC module/Front blower relay coil
    29 10A* Customer access
    Roadside Emergencies
    30 15A* Highbeam headlamps
    31 15A* Transmission range sensor (then to
    starter relay coil), 4x4
    32 5A* Radio (start)
    33 15A* Front wiper
    34 10A* Brake on-off switch
    35 10A* Instrument cluster
    36 10A* PCM Memory
    37 15A* Horn
    38 20A* Trailer tow park lamps
    39 15A* Trailer tow back-up lamps
    40 20A* Fuel pump
    41 10A* Instrument cluster
    42 15A* Delayed accessory
    43 10A* Fog lamps
    44 10A* PATS module, Transceiver
    45 10A* Ignition switch Run/Start feed
    46 10A* Left-hand lowbeam
    47 10A* Right-hand lowbeam
    48 10A* Rear smart wiper motor
    101 30A** Trailer tow electric brake

    102 30A** Door locks, BSM
    103 50A** Ignition switch (gasoline engine only),
    FICM power ( Diesel engine only)
    104 40A** Heated backlight
    105 30A** Fuel heater ( Diesel engine only)
    106 30A** Front wiper main
    107 40A** Front blower motor
    108 40A** Auxiliary blower motor
    109 30A** Heated seats
    110 50A** Ignition switch
    111 30A** 4WD/Shift on the fly
    112 30A** Left-hand power seats
    113 30A** Starter motor
    114 30A** Right-hand power seats
    115 20A** Trailer tow battery charge
    116 30A** Ignition switch
    601 30A CB Window motors, Moonroof
    602 60A** 4WABS module
    210 — Not used
    211 — Backup lamps relay ( Diesel engine

    212 — Not used
    301 — Front blower motor relay
    302 — Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
    303 — Fuel heater relay ( Diesel engine only)
    304 — Heated backlight relay
    305 — Trailer tow battery charge relay
    306 — Delayed accessory relay
    307 — Starter relay

    By the way, if you have so many troubles at once, the problem may be the wiring to the relay box , rather than a single relay. That looks more like a job for a good car electrician.



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Yes. No need cracking brains here. This is part of the security measures that comes with your car. Same goea for Toyota 4Runner and Benz ML.

Take it to an authorised dealer for refix.

Good luck and be careful next time.

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    Onifade Adewunmi May 27, 2009

    Come on. I had a look and just gave you a first hand information that even your manual never told you about the damn security. Let's be nice.

    An advice is helpful if it comes as a professional word.

    Enjoy your free will.



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