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I have had my 04 Kia Sorento for 5 days & the sunroof is nuts!!!

Sunroof has two switches, one to vent and one to open and close. The vent switch will not work at all, while the other switch will only open the sunroof halfway then when you close the sunroof it closes then vents & when you try to close it from there it opens up halfway again. I am very aggrivated with this.

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According to the 2003 owner's manual (2004 should be similar) there is a specific procedure for calibrating the moon-roof's controller. The electronic controller may have lost its calibration settings due to an electrical glitch or disconnected battery.

Look up he exact procedure in your owner's manual as it may vary between different mdel years or OEM moon-roof suppliers.

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Wifes sunroof is open and will not close. Checked fuse it has pwr, removed switch it does not have power ... a ground problem at the sunroof motor...where is that?


First off this is controlled by a module (computer) The switch would only have five volts . 5volt reference voltage from the control module . Not knowing how to test the electrical circuit's for this could be expensive . Short out the module or 5 volt ref. voltage circuit inside the module.
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop . Look at a wiring diagram here http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year , make , model and engine size . Under system click on body & accessories ,then under subsystem click sun roof . Then click search button then the blue link . Now tell me you under stand what's happening here .

Power Sunroof System Components
The power sunroof system consists of the following components:
• Sunroof control module
• Sunroof Opening Position Switch (SOPS)
• Sunroof switch
• Sunroof motor/actuator
• Sunroof glass (spoiler type, with glass sliding above roof)
• Sunshade
• Rail and track assembly upon which the sunroof glass rides
• Power supply for the sunroof control module: SUNROOF 20 A fuse
• Ground from G302

Sunroof Opening Position Switch (SOPS)
The SOPS tracks the position of the glass through 2 limit switches:
• Soft stop limit
• Vent limit
The sunroof control module monitors the limit switches and based on the inputs determines the position of the sunroof glass. As a limit switch closes, the 5 volt reference will be shorted to the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit, pulling down the 5 volt reference to 0 volts.
The sunroof control module understands the position of the sunroof glass based on the different input combinations through the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal and sunroof limit switch open vent signal circuits.

Power Sunroof Does Not Close
Perform the Initialization/Teach Process any time a new sunroof motor actuator is installed in the vehicle or any time an existing sunroof motor actuator is removed from the vehicle. Refer to Sunroof Motor/Actuator Initialization/Teach Process .

Oct 23, 2017 | Pontiac Cars & Trucks

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I have a 04 Pontiac G6 4 door sedan the sun shade opens up no problem but when I try to open the glass the first one lifts up but that's it the other 3 pieces dont


Power Sunroof System Components
The power sunroof system consists of the following components:
• One tilting glass sunroof panel--For sunroof vent functions
• Three sliding glass sunroof panels, which allow the sunroof to open in sections
• Power sunshade panel--An adaptable panel which is rolled out or rolled in and stored by the sunshade motor/actuator in order to cover or uncover the sunroof glass panels
• Power sunroof switch--A rotary style switch controlling sunroof switch signal inputs to the sunroof motor/actuator
• Power sunshade switch--A momentary press style switch controlling sunshade switch signal inputs to the sunshade motor/actuator
• Power sunroof motor/actuator--Comprised of both the sunroof motor/actuator and the sunroof electronic control module, it is sometimes referred to as the sunroof control module/motor assembly.
• Power sunshade motor/actuator--Comprised of both the sunshade motor/actuator and the sunshade electronic control module, it is sometimes referred to as the sunroof slave module.
Sunroof Motor/Actuator and Sunroof Switch
The sunroof motor/actuator assembly is located at the rear of the passenger compartment, above the rear view window, between the headliner and the roof structure. The sunroof motor/actuator assembly also contains the sunroof electronic control module and the two components are serviced together as a unit.
Battery positive voltage is supplied to the motor/actuator at all times through the 25-amp LAMELLA ROOF fuse located in the rear fuse block. Whenever the ignition is turned to RUN or ACCESSORY, or when the retained accessory power (RAP) system is active, the motor/actuator is also supplied battery positive voltage through the accessory voltage circuit and the 10-amp ROOF/HEAT SEAT fuse which is located in the body control module (BCM). The sunroof motor/actuator is grounded through splice S403 to body ground G302.
The sunroof motor/actuator supplies voltage to the sunroof switch through three internal resistors and three hard wire circuits. The 3 hard wire circuits are:
• Sunroof switch data 1 signal circuit
• Sunroof switch data 2 signal circuit
• Sunroof switch data 3 signal circuit
The sunroof switch, which is also grounded to G302, is a rotary style switch. When the switch control lever is turned in a rotational direction, the appropriate switch contacts and signal circuits for the selected mode are simultaneously opened and/or closed to ground in order to provide the appropriate combination of voltage signals to the sunroof motor/actuator. The sunroof motor/actuator interprets the signals, and then applies battery positive voltage and ground to the appropriate circuits of the integral power sunroof motor in order to move the sunroof glass panels. At the same time, the sunroof motor/actuator sends a serial data message, via the keyword 2000 serial data circuit, to the sunshade motor/actuator to open the sunshade panel in conjunction with the sunroof glass. As the sunroof glass panels slide rearward to the open position, the sunshade motor/actuator simultaneously rolls in the adaptable sunshade panel.
The sunroof switch is mounted in a bezel which is located above the rearview mirror.


Circuit/System Description
The sunroof system is controlled by the sunroof switch and the sunroof control module/motor assembly, which is also known as the motor/actuator assembly.
The sunroof control module is supplied battery positive voltage at all times through the 15A SUNROOF fuse located in the rear fuse block. Whenever the ignition is turned to RUN or ACCESSORY, or when the retained accessory power (RAP) system is active, the module is also supplied voltage through the accessory voltage circuit and the 10-amp ROOF/HEAT SEAT fuse located in the body control module (BCM). The sunroof control module is grounded through the ground circuit at G302.
The sunroof control module supplies voltage to the contacts of the sunroof switch through the sunroof switch close signal circuit and the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The sunroof control module also supplies ground to the switch contacts through the sunroof switch low reference circuit. When the switch is operated, the contacts and signal circuit for the selected mode are closed to ground, the voltage is pulled low in the module, and the appropriate signal is recognized by the control module. The control module then internally applies battery positive voltage and ground to the appropriate circuits of the reversible power sunroof motor in order to move the sunroof glass panel to the open, close, or vent


Do you know how to do electrical testing ?
Circuit/System Testing
Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the sunroof control module.
Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the ground circuit terminal 1 and ground.
? If greater than the specified range, test the ground circuit for an open/high resistance.
Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the ignition circuit terminal 3 and ground.
? If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the ignition circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance.
Verify that a test lamp illuminates between the B+ circuit terminal 6 and ground.
? If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the B+ circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance.
Connect the harness connector at the sunroof control module.
Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the sunroof switch.
Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the low reference circuit terminal B and ground.
? If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the sunroof control module.
Ignition ON, test for B+ between the signal circuit terminal C and ground.
? If not the specified value, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the sunroof control module.
Test for B+ between the signal circuit terminal A and ground.
? If not the specified value, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the sunroof control module.
If all circuits test normal, test or replace the sunroof switch.

Oct 13, 2017 | Pontiac Cars & Trucks

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Sunroof does not open. Fuse is ok and the shade operates normally.


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Sunroof Description and Operation (One Connector System)
Sunroof
This diagnostic procedure is to be used for the 1 connector Sunroof System that combines the sunroof control module with the sunroof motor/actuator.
The Sunroof System consists of the following components:
• BATT MAIN 2 Fuse 50 A
• Body control module (BCM)
• RAP relay
• S/Roof Fuse 20 A
• Sunroof module (includes sunroof motor/actuator)
• Sunroof switch
The Sunroof System is controlled by the sunroof switch and the sunroof motor/actuator assembly.
When the ignition is turned to RUN or ACCESSORY, or when the retained accessory power (RAP) system is active, the body control module (BCM) applies a ground to the RAP relay in the instrument panel (I/P) fuse block. This activates the RAP relay and allows battery positive voltage to be applied through the SUNROOF Fuse to the sunroof module. Ground for the sunroof module is supplied from G302.
The sunroof can be placed in 3 preset positions:
• Open
• Vent
• Closed
When the sunroof switch is placed in the OPEN position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The sunroof motor/actuator then applies voltage to the sunroof motor open control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor close circuit. The sunroof motor then opens the sunroof to the full open position.
When the sunroof switch is placed in the VENT position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The sunroof module then applies voltage to the sunroof motor open control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor close circuit. The sunroof motor then opens the sunroof to the VENT position.
When the sunroof switch is placed and held in the CLOSED position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch close signal circuit. The sunroof module then applies voltage to the sunroof motor close control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor open circuit. The sunroof motor then closes the sunroof.
The sunroof can be placed in any preferred open position when:
• The sunroof is in the fully opened position by pressing and holding the sunroof switch in the CLOSE position until the panel has reached the desired position then release the CLOSE switch in order to stop the sunroof
• The sunroof is opening, it can be stopped by momentarily pressing either side of the switch.
The sunroof control module, sun roof actuator, and the sunroof motor are integral parts of the sunroof module assembly and are not service separately.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop or buick dealer .

Feb 10, 2017 | 2010 Buick LaCrosse CXS

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2006 Chevy Envoy Denali moonroof stuck open manually close


You mean GMC not Chevy ! Chevy doesn't make the Envoy . There is no way to manually close the sunroof !
Power Sunroof Inoperative
If voltage is not measured on the sunroof switch open signal or sunroof switch close signal circuits, the fault could be in the retained accessory power (RAP) supply voltage circuit, battery positive voltage circuit, or sunroof motor ground circuit. If the sunroof motor is not being powered, neither will the sunroof switch signal circuits.

2

Attempt to operate the sunroof through its full range of functions in order to verify that the power sunroof inoperative fault is present.
Does the power sunroof system operate normally?
--
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
YES - Go to Step 3

3
Is the sunroof in the fully closed position?
--
YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 7

4
  1. Disconnect the sunroof switch.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  3. Connect a 3-amp fused jumper wire to the low reference circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector.
  4. Connect the other end of the 3-amp fused jumper wire to the sunroof switch open signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector, for 3 seconds.
Did the sunroof open?
--
YES - Go to Step 17
NO - Go to Step 5

5

  1. Disconnect the 3-amp fused jumper wire.
  2. Measure the voltage from the sunroof switch open signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector to the low reference circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
YES - Go to Step 13
NO - Go to Step 6

6

Measure the voltage from the sunroof switch open signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector to a good ground.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
YES - Go to Step 14
NO - Go to Step 10

7
  1. Disconnect the sunroof switch.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  3. Connect a 3-amp fused jumper wire to the low reference circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector.
  4. Connect the other end of the 3-amp fused jumper wire to the sunroof switch close signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector, for 3 seconds.
Did the sunroof close?
--
YES - Go to Step 17
NO - Go to Step 8

8

  1. Disconnect the 3-amp fused jumper wire.
  2. Measure the voltage from the sunroof switch close signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector to the low reference circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
YES - Go to Step 15
NO - Go to Step 9

9

Measure the voltage from the sunroof switch close signal circuit of the sunroof switch harness connector to a good ground.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
Go to Step 14
Go to Step 10

10

  1. Disconnect the sunroof motor harness connector.
  2. Measure the voltage from the battery positive voltage circuit of the sunroof motor harness connector to a good ground.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 19

11

Measure the voltage from the retained accessory power (RAP) supply voltage circuit of the sunroof motor harness connector to a good ground.
Does the voltage measure near the specified value?
B+
Go to Step 12
Go to Symptoms - Computer/Integrating Systems in Computer/Integrating Systems

12

  1. Turn OFF the ignition.
  2. Measure the resistance from the ground circuit of the sunroof motor harness connector to a good ground.
Does the resistance measure less than or equal to the specified value?
5 ohms
Go to Step 16
Go to Step 20

13

Test the sunroof switch close signal circuit for a short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 18

14

Test the sunroof switch low reference circuit for an open. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 18

15

Test the sunroof switch open signal circuit for a short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 18

16

Test the appropriate sunroof switch signal circuit for an open. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 18

17

Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the sunroof switch. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 21

18

Inspect for poor connections at the harness connectors of the sunroof motor. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
Go to Step 23
Go to Step 22

19

Repair the short to ground or open in the sunroof motor battery positive voltage circuit. Refer to Wiring Repairs and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you complete the repair?
--
Go to Step 23
--

20

Repair the open in the sunroof motor ground circuit. Refer to Wiring Repairs and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you complete the repair?
--
Go to Step 23
--

21

Replace the sunroof switch. Refer to Sunroof Switch Replacement .
Did you complete the replacement?
--
Go to Step 23
--

22

Replace the sunroof motor. Refer to Control Module References in Computer/Integrating Systems.
Did you complete the replacement?
--
Go to Step 23
--

23

Operate the system in order to verify the repair.
Did you find and correct the condition?
--
System OK
Go to Step 2

Jul 31, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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2001 cadillac deville sunroof open and want close


Check the RAP fuse in the rear fuse box , this fuse powers the sunroof control module ! Fuse Block - Rear , Left rear of the passenger compartment, under the rear seat .
The sunroof module contains the logic for the opening and the closing of the sunroof. The sunroof motor assembly contains the reversible DC drive motor, the gear train, and the limit switch.
The sunroof module determines the sunroof motor direction based on inputs received from the overhead console sunroof switches. When the ignition switch is in the ON position or when retained accessory power (RAP) is active, voltage is applied to the sunroof module via the RAP relay. For a description and operation of the RAP system, refer to Retained Accessory Power (RAP) Description and Operation in Retained Accessory Power. The sunroof module controls the sunroof motor direction by changing the polarity of the applied voltage. The sunroof module remembers the sunroof position whenever the ignition switch is turned to the OFF position. The limit switch is used as an input to the sunroof module to indicate that the glass is fully closed, or in the comfort stop positions. The limit switch is grounded when the sunroof glass is in the fully closed or comfort stop positions, otherwise it is open.
The SLIDE CLOSE mode is initiated by moving and holding the sunroof slide switch (ROOF) forward. This applies a ground provided from the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof switch close vent signal input of the sunroof module. The sunroof module controls voltage to the control circuits of the sunroof motor. The sunroof motor will run until the limit switch contacts are closed. The closing of the limit switch will apply the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit to the sunroof module, indicating the flush closed position has been reached. As the sunroof is approaching the close position the sunroof glass will force the wind deflector downward.
You need to have a factory scan tool hooked up an have it checked for DTC'S in the sunroof control module ! a code reader will not do this , a code reader will only check the engine codes for OBD 2 .
Important: The following must be completed before using the symptom tables.
  1. Perform Diagnostic System Check - Power Sunroof in order to verify that all of the following are true:
  2. ?€¢
    No DTCs are set.


    ?€¢
    The control modules can communicate via the serial data link.

  3. Review the system operation in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Sunroof Description and Operation
your better off taking to the dealer !

May 09, 2015 | 2001 Cadillac DeVille

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2000 olsmobile alero sunroof stuck open


HAVE SAME PROBLEM ON MY ALERO , WOULD CLOSE TO VENT POSITION ALL OTHER FUNCTIONS WORKED FINE. TALKED TO A MECH. FRIEND AND FOUND A WAY TO CLOSE MANUALLY BUT YOU DO HAVE TO DROP FRONT LEFT CORNER OF HEADLINER.
THE MOTOR IS UNDER SUNVISOR AREA AND YOU'LL NEED AN ALLEN(SPELLING)SOCKET TO CLOSE ROOF

Oct 20, 2012 | 2001 Oldsmobile Alero

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Moonroof wont close all the way


Do you know how to test automotive electrical circuit's with a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter ? When adjusting the moon roof did you see any switches ? sunroof limit switch
Measure the reference voltage of the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit at the sunroof control harness connector to a good ground.
Does the reference voltage measure near the specified value?
4.5-5.5 V
Notice: Do not open the sunroof glass past the full open soft stop position. Doing so may damage the sunroof assembly and or the roof top.
Connect a jumper wire to the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit at the sunroof control module harness to a good ground.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Using the sunroof switch, operate the sunroof system, not to exceed the full open soft stop position.
Does the system operate as requested?

Do you know what a wiring diagram is ? Free one's here
http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year ,make ,model an engine size . Under system click body & accessories ,then under subsystem click on sun roof . Click the search button then the blue link . See the control module , motor an the two switches ? One is probably miss adjusted . or bad !

Power Sunroof System Components
The power sunroof system consists of the following components:
• Sunroof control module
• Sunroof motor with the limit switches
• Sunroof switch
• Sunroof glass-spoiler type, with glass sliding above roof
• Sunshade
• Rail and track assembly upon which the sunroof glass rides
• Power sunroof system circuit breaker: PWR WDO 25 A
• Ground: G204

Sunroof Limit Switches
The sunroof limit switches track the position of the sunroof glass through two limit switches:
• Soft Stop limit switch through the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit
• Vent Stop limit switch through the sunroof limit switch range signal circuit
The sunroof control module monitors the limit switches and based on the input combinations, determines the position of the sunroof glass. As a sunroof limit switch closes, the 5 volt reference will be shorted to the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit, pulling the 5 volt reference to 0 volts.
The sunroof control module monitors both sunroof switch input requests and based on the sunroof limit switch input combinations, will control an output to the sunroof motor, to drive the sunroof glass to the requested position.

Sunroof Motor
The sunroof has a bi-directional motor. When the motor is not operating both circuits are grounded. When the motor drives the sunroof glass in the direction from the closed to vent or vent to open position, the following occurs:
• Voltage is supplied to the sunroof motor open circuit.
• Ground is maintained to the sunroof motor close circuit.
When the motor drives the sunroof in the direction from the open to vent or vent to closed position, the following occurs:
• Voltage is supplied to the sunroof motor close circuit.
• Ground is maintained to the sunroof motor open circuit.
The sunroof control module is equipped with a timer circuit which stops the operation of the sunroof motor after 8 seconds.

Dec 23, 2017 | 2003 Pontiac Sunfire

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2003 kia sorento: sunroof stuck


remove the sun roof motor drive and close the sunroof manually, then reinstall motor, which by the way is the most likely part to cause this.

Sep 16, 2009 | 2003 Kia Sorento

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Volvo V7 '01 sunroof will not stop in closed position


I think I know the answer....your gear has slipped on the cable a few teeth. Set the roof to the desired closed position, flush with your roof. Then open the panel above the mirror by first prying off the switch plate and removing the two 10mm bolts holding the mirror. Remove the sunroof motor gear, or rather just lower it out so it is disengaged with the cables. Now connect the switch and hit the auto open button as if you wanted to open the roof with single flick of the switch. Now hit the auto close button (same button of course, but the single touch method). The motor will advance and stop to where it thinks the roof should be, closed, which it is. Reassemble the gear into the slot, test it if all good, replace the mirror and panel.
Good luck.
Manfred.

May 10, 2009 | 2001 Volvo V70

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Sunroof spontaneously opens to vent


Loose wire or bad switch. If the switch is loose or floppy at all it's bad. Can you make it happen by tapping or banging the switch with your hand? Or does it happen on rough roads?

Mar 22, 2009 | 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser

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