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Negative rear right camber

I had my tires rotated, balanced and aligned last summer. When picking up the vehicle I noticed that it had a negative camber on both rear tires. I recently took the car in for a new alignment at a different shop. The rear camber readings came back: Left, actual -0.2, before -1.8 Right, actual -0.2, before -1.6 The shop now exchanged the right rear camber bolt, and redid the alignment: Left, actual -0.1, before -0.2 Right, actual -0.2, before -1.7 Rear Cross Camber, actual 0.1, before 1.5 Total Toe, actual -0.26, before -1.45 Thrust Angle, actual 0.22, before 0.56 The Mechanic says "this is the best they can do", and I should take the car to someone who deals with collision issues. I am confused, this car has never been in an accident. How did this happen? My question: Is it safe to drive the car like this, and will the negative camber increase again? - I had people who drove behind me stop me to point out the right rear tire being angled. What should I do? Thanks so much! Michaela

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If you bought this vehicle second hand then you need to get your vehicle checked for crash damage. Your insurer can do a check on a vehicle register for a small cost, but that is only if the vehicle was damaged AND repaired/written off via an insurer. this does not guarantee that the vehicle has never been in an accident, you need to look underneath to see if there are any kinks, tears or ripples that don't look quite right. But I would advise taking to a professional repair shop for a good look over.
If the bolt has been replaced, and the readings are correct, then you should be safe enough, just drive steady. But if you are suspect of this vehicle get it checked .

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Same problem for my 2004 Santa Fe, left rear tire has a camber of -3.1; mechanic says it can't be adjusted any better than this. Car has never been in an accident, has about 120,000 miles on it, to my knowledge we have not overloaded it with people and stuff. Safety is a concern for us, too. Apart from tire wear, what do I need to be especially aware of?

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SOURCE: 2004 Huyndai Santa Fe - Negative camber on rear passenger side

It is possible for the chassis to sag, but this is far more common with much larger, heavier vehicles. Likely, you have something in the suspension that is bent or mount bushings that are worn oblong where the center bolt passes through. A good shop can find this after a careful examination. subtle bends are difficult to detect...parts have factory bends in them and unless removed and matched up side by side with a known good part, you would never see the difference. Bending does not always involve an accident. A sideways slide into a curb in snow or even a decent pothole at the right angle can cause a bend. Likely it is not unsafe but it will wear your tires.

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