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Jeep grand cherokee quadra drive

Have issues with my Quadra Drive or Quadra Trac II systems binding when turning sharp corners and making a loud growling noise. 05 grand Cherokee Hemi 5.7 engine all wheel drive

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Differentials.

The Jeep Quadra Drive systems have a limited slip differential in the transfer case as well as the front and rear axles - which allows you to run all wheel drive on all surfaces. This matters because without limited slip capability your transfer case & axles would break.

Have your transfer case and axles serviced by a dealer, really a real dealer for Chrysler Jeep. These diffs and transfer cases can use unique gear oils that you don\'t want to mix up with regular gear oil.

That howling, clunking, grinding noise is your dog-clutches slipping (as designed) as you go around the corner.



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So what\'s the Diff?



All differentials are is a way to allow for different wheels to travel different distances on the same vehicle. What-he-say? Yep, when we turn a corner all 4 wheels go a different distance around that corner... oh yeah well everybody knows that. Think about it, your making that hard left turn at your favorite Fast-Food joint; your left front wheel is 2 feet away from the curb, but the back left wheel rubs the curb... why?

As you make that 90 degree turn, your left back wheel travels 4 feet, your left front wheel travels 6 feet, your right rear wheel travels 7 feet, and your right front wheel travels 8 feet.



Ok you say, what\'s the big deal? A couple feet slip here a couple of feet slip there... Well remember your sticky rubber tires on dry asphalt don\'t really give very much and u-joints, axles shafts, and even pinion and ring gear damage can occur. Fortunately for us, Leonardo DaVinci (yeah really) saw this problem coming and designed the Open Differential. There are mini-gears inside your open differential that allow for that slippage, these mini-gears are called spider gears. Problem is when your in snow, ice, mud the spider gears of the open diff allow all your power to go to the wheel with the least traction (and your stuck).

Ok let\'s put another powered axle up front and call it 4x4. Umm no.

A normal 4x4 is not really true four wheel drive. At best it\'s the worst 2 wheels you\'ve got - driving you forward. Until both wheels on the same side are in a ditch, and your stuck.



Well what the heck Leonardo? I want something better than stuck!



The old-time dragster dudes of the 50\'s & 60\'s agreed with you and they welded those little spider gears together for true positraction across both wheels. Ever been close to a big monster truck in a parking lot and heard its tires chirping around the corner? Or an old Jeep crow-hopping it\'s way around a corner - Letting out little tire noises (like "erp" "erp" "erp")?

That\'s because these 4x4\'s have been modified to not have any differential action. None. This is great in a 1/4 mile dragster race or a mountain climbing rally car. A locked front differential can (and most likely will) cause you to crash... not good for daily drivers.



You\'re in luck, the Limited Slip Differential (LSD) has clutches instead of spider gears, which engage as wheel slippage increases. Subaru and Audi are 2 companies that really brought this to market with All Wheel Drive decades ago. Jeep and other SUV/Pickup manufacturers have utilized clutch-based LSD\'s as well. Clutch-based LSD\'s however, have a limited lifespan and can require special gear oils. When Clutch-based LSD\'s fail, they basically become an Open Diff.



Automatic locking differentials were brought to market in the 70\'s & 80\'s by companies like Detroit Locker, and these engage a fully locked set of gears as soon as any slippage occurs. Problem is it can become very difficult to steer, at all. Forget about U-turns, just go around the block. And while your at it, stop and pick up another set of tires because it will feel like you are dragging your outside tires around every corner.



Jeep and Daimler-Chrysler developed another type of LSD that utilizes a small hydraulic pump to engage a set of clutches and gears, which lasts much longer than traditional LSD\'s. It was called a Gerodisc differential, and it worked fairly well. Not as much traction as a full locker, but good LSD performance. The problem was the Gerodisc couldn\'t control itself in the car-washes, and would build-up pressure as the tires slipped over the soapy rollers, and launch the Grand Cherokee across the car wash. Yeah, it was freaky. So freaky that the National Car Wash Association of America (yeah they have an association, who knew?) prohibited all Grand Cherokees. Look it up.



The King Daddy of differentials is the selectable locker. These little gems are very expensive, but you get all the benefits of both the open diff for maneuvering, and lockers for traction only when needed.



So that noise, while it may not spell imminent doom, surely ain\'t good.

Posted on Jan 02, 2014

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SOURCE: 1999 Jeep G C Quadra Trac keeps getting stuck in 4 wheel drive.

universal joint on the driveshaft may do this !
check transmission fluide as well.
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so is AWD,? command trac or what trac?

no working means..... using or 4low,?
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got that? what you have for real MATTERS? we cant guess.
the 247 adds LimSlipDiff option to the system got that too>?
symptoms for working are>......
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2: lever stuck
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4 steering binds up.?

say what is there.
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this is part time 4wd, selectrac, and is NOT AWD, all wheel drive
you dont have Quadra-trac do you....

this is driving wrong,
ever read the operators guide yet?
it says not to drive on dry pavement in PT 4wd
dry means , not iced.

are you doing this>?

http://www.rubicon-trail.com/4WD101/driveline-bind.html

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are you on dirt? or pavement...????????????????????????
we cant answer until you answer what 4wd option you have.
if that makes no sense, then read the operators guide,
it tells you what's there and how to use it.
read that first, then ask questions,?
and if Part time 4wd?, it';s not to be used on dry pavement only ICE.

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4WD: Select-Trac (or older Select-Drive has a slip coupling too, NP129/229) is AWD in that, "the "4Hi" setting the drive shafts were coupled together using a viscous-type coupler " this anti wind up slipper"
Watch out for exception 1: Select-Trac NP228 based jeeps, it does not have a viscous-type limited-slip coupling. It was used briefly in 1986.
Quada-Trac is full time 4WD (not in lock mode) has a real center differential to shift torque between front and rear. This is the best system , not just a slip clutch as above. Then went BACK to the slipper in 1980. (odd huh?) Up to 1998.
Quadra-Trac-II "4-All Time", "N" or neutral, and "4-Lo". In "4-All Time", torque is applied to the rear wheels under normal driving conditions.
If the rear axle starts rotating at a significantly higher rate than the front axle, hydraulic pressure builds up in the gerotor oil pump and causes the clutch pack, to progressively transfer torque to the front axle, until both axles return to the same speed
Quadra-Trac I was introduced in 2004-10, same as above but is automatic with no driver controls ,like above.
The Quadra-Drive system was introduced in 1999 and is based on the Quadra-Trac II system but adds limited slip differentials (the best full time system ,with great traction to all wheels all the time) 1999 to 04.
Quadra-Drive-II has electronic limited slip differentials or ELSDs 2005 up.

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which system?
we cant guess what is In YOUR CAR, ever.
you must SAY. or RTM, in the glove box.
and why are you using 4wd on dry pavement, now>?


4WD: Select-Trac (or older Select-Drive has a slip coupling too, NP129/229) is AWD in that, "the "4Hi" setting the drive shafts were coupled together using a viscous-type coupler " this anti wind up slipper"
Watch out for exception 1: Select-Trac NP228 based jeeps, it does not have a viscous-type limited-slip coupling. It was used briefly in 1986.
Quada-Trac is full time 4WD (not in lock mode) has a real center differential to shift torque between front and rear. This is the best system , not just a slip clutch as above. Then went BACK to the slipper in 1980. (odd huh?) Up to 1998.
Quadra-Trac-II "4-All Time", "N" or neutral, and "4-Lo". In "4-All Time", torque is applied to the rear wheels under normal driving conditions.
If the rear axle starts rotating at a significantly higher rate than the front axle, hydraulic pressure builds up in the gerotor oil pump and causes the clutch pack, to progressively transfer torque to the front axle, until both axles return to the same speed
Quadra-Trac I was introduced in 2004-10, same as above but is automatic with no driver controls ,like above.
The Quadra-Drive system was introduced in 1999 and is based on the Quadra-Trac II system but adds limited slip differentials (the best full time system ,with great traction to all wheels all the time) 1999 to 04.
Quadra-Drive-II has electronic limited slip differentials or ELSDs 2005 up.

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You need to be more specific. To start, which 4 wheel drive system your jeep has? (Select Trac, Quadra Trac II or Quadra Drive)
Then: does it never work, or only in 4-Lo?

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if your front shafts are the u joint type i bet one of them is bad. it will cause a kind of twitching feeling and binding while turning if they fail.

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1999 Jeep grand cherokee limited with Quadra trac only works as two wheel drive when all wheel is selected and will not go into 4-lo. Sounds like it isn't engaging fully and feels like the lever should go...


Could you tell me what selection you have on your 4x4 shifter?

You have 4 high (full time) N 4 Low and nothing else?

Quadra only sends power to the front axle when it is needed, it uses a hydraulic unit that senses slip then send power to the front.

You also need to make sure your getting it in to gear right, for me I found that getting to 4 low can be hard as they tend to bind, move the 4x4 shifter to N take your foot off the brake and pull it into 4 low, do the same getting back out.

I have owned every 4x4 Jeep T case in Grands from 93 to 02 they offer fantastic traction and options and are strong.

Make sure your T case fluid is full, if you have never changed it DO SO, as dirty fluid plays hell on them, if you do have Quadra trac you need to get the correct fluid for the case, go to your Jeep dealer and get it, DONT put trans fluid in as this dose not work right with the system.

If you want "Locked" run the system in 4 low, as heavy off road in 4high with Quadra is not the best for heavy off road, use 4 low to that.

If you need more help just ask, I hope this worked.

1993 2HI N 4LO, 1998 5.9 LX Quadra trac with limited slips 2000 2HI, 4HI full 4HI part N 4LO 2002 Limited with Quadra with Vari-Lok differentials.

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universal joint on the driveshaft may do this !
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