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Is the key fob active? it may need a new battery or reprogrammed..

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I have a 2005 GMC Yukon that the rear hatch does not lock. Wouldn't be a problem but no manual key hole to lock it. Must be some kind of lock sensor. Is on the driver door panel or by the hatch?


The rear hatch locking is computer contolled .
The BCM also runs diagnostics on the liftgate lock relay control circuit and will set DTC B3825 as current and also send a Class 2 message to the DIC. The DIC will display REPLACE LIFTGATE FUSE to inform the driver that a fault has been detected in the liftgate lock circuit and that the liftgate is not locked. Faults that will set the DTC and cause the DIC to display the message could be any of the following:
• An open ECC fuse
• An open or short to ground in the liftgate lock relay battery positive voltage circuit
• A faulty liftgate lock relay
• An open or short to ground in the liftgate lock relay control circuit
• A short to ground in the liftgate lock actuator lock control circuit
• A faulty BCM

The liftgate lock relay supply and coil sides receive a constant voltage through the battery voltage supply circuit and the ECC fuse. The normally closed contact is connected to ground and the control side is connected to the body control module (BCM). A lock function will occur when a door lock switch activation, keyless entry lock transmission, auto door lock function or a liftgate lock function has been received by the BCM. The BCM will then ground the control side of the liftgate lock relay. This energizes the relay and allows voltage to be applied to the liftgate lock actuator lock control circuit. Since the other side of the liftgate lock actuator is connected to the normally closed contacts of the door unlock relay to ground, the liftgate will lock. When an unlock function occurs the BCM will ground the control side of the unlock relay and the rear doors and liftgate will unlock.
The power door lock system consists of the following components:
• The driver door module (DDM)
• The passenger door module (PDM)
• The body control module (BCM)
• The driver information center (DIC)
• The rear door lock switch
• The door lock relay
• The door unlock relay
• The liftgate lock relay--utility vehicles with liftgate only
• The reversible door lock actuators in each of the doors and liftgate
• LOCKS 20A fuse (rear lock/unlock relay supply voltage)
• ECC 10A fuse (liftgate lock relay supply voltage)

If i were to guess i would say you mite need a new lock actuator , but i don't guess . You could take the hatch inside panel off an check for B+ voltage for the lock actuation as someone pushes the switch . Or have it checked for codes .

Dec 21, 2016 | GMC Cars & Trucks

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I have 2005 chevy tahoe my doors all licks but my liftgate door with window stays open use to lock w all my doors? I havent check anytjing yet? I cant lock it.


Here is how it works !
Liftgate Locking Operation
The lift gate will lock any time the vehicle is shifted out of park on vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and at vehicle speeds exceeding 5 kph with manual transmission. This happens in conjunction with auto door locks if enabled or independently of auto door locks if the feature is disabled. This ensures that the lift gate is locked anytime the vehicle is shifted out of park or when the vehicle is in motion.
The lift gate lock relay supply and coil sides receive a constant voltage through the battery voltage supply circuit and the ECC fuse. The normally closed contact is connected to ground and the control side is connected to the body control module (BCM). A lock function will occur when a door lock switch activation, keyless entry lock transmission, auto door lock function or a lift gate lock function has been received by the BCM. The BCM will then ground the control side of the lift gate lock relay. This energizes the relay and allows voltage to be applied to the lift gate lock actuator lock control circuit. Since the other side of the lift gate lock actuator is connected to the normally closed contacts of the door unlock relay to ground, the lift gate will lock. When an unlock function occurs the BCM will ground the control side of the unlock relay and the rear doors and lift gate will unlock.
The BCM also runs diagnostics on the lift gate lock relay control circuit and will set DTC B3825 as current and also send a Class 2 message to the DIC. The DIC will display REPLACE LIFTGATE FUSE to inform the driver that a fault has been detected in the lift gate lock circuit and that the lift gate is not locked. Faults that will set the DTC and cause the DIC to display the message could be any of the following:
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An open ECC fuse


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An open or short to ground in the lift gate lock relay battery positive voltage circuit


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A faulty lift gate lock relay


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An open or short to ground in the lift gate lock relay control circuit


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A short to ground in the lift gate lock actuator lock control circuit


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A faulty BCM

May 14, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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My hatch won't release from the remote or the door switch. No solenoid sound at the hatch. How do I get it to open if it's not a bad fuse?


There are actually three relays , an there are controlled by the BCM - body control module !
When a door lock switch is activated in the lock or unlock position the BCM will receive a voltage signal on either the door lock switch lock or unlock signal circuits.
The BCM, upon receipt of a lock switch lock or unlock signal, will switch the appropriate lock relay control circuits to battery positive voltage. This will energize the appropriate lock or unlock relays. The relay will supply voltage to the door lock actuator lock or unlock control circuits to one side of the lock actuator. Since the opposing side of the lock actuators are connected to ground through the other lock actuator control circuit and the normally closed contacts of the lock or unlock relay, the doors and liftgate will then lock or unlock appropriately.
Three relays are used to operate the locks. DRV DR UNLCK relay, PASS DR UNLOCK and DR LCK relay. This is done to isolate the driver door lock actuator so it can be unlocked by itself using the keyless entry transmitter.
Rear Hatch/Gate Description and Operation
The liftgate can be opened by operating the switch on the instrument panel. Battery voltage is supplied to the liftgate actuator through the body control module (BCM). The BCM will pulse the liftgate actuator when a release input is received through the key fob, or the instrument panel switch.
Door/Lift gate Latch Assembly
  1. Install a 20-A fused jumper wire between the control terminal 3 and 12 volts. Install a jumper wire between the ground terminal 2 and ground.
  2. Verify the actuator turns on & off.
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If the function does not perform as specified, replace the applicable door latch.

Oct 01, 2015 | 2006 Pontiac Torrent

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Why does my 2004 Chevy Silverado lock and unlock while in drive? When turned off and no keys in ignition the drivers door will unlock on its own a short time later.


Gremlins ! HA HA HA sorry ! First off a little bit on how they work an what all is involved in making them work ! There are a few control modules in the mix , switches ,relays etc...
Door Lock System Components
The power door lock system consists of the following components:
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The driver door module (DDM)

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The passenger door module (PDM)

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The body control module (BCM)

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The driver information center (DIC)

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The rear door lock switch

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The door lock relay

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The door unlock relay

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The liftgate lock relay--utility vehicles with liftgate only

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The reversible door lock actuators in each of the doors and liftgate

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LOCKS 20A fuse (rear lock/unlock relay supply voltage)

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ECC 10A fuse (liftgate lock relay supply voltage)

Door Lock System Controls
The power door lock system can be controlled by any of the following:
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A power door lock or unlock switch activation

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A keyless entry transmission

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An automatic door lock function

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A delay lock function

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Door lock cylinder switch activation

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Lockout Prevention

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An airbag deployment

The front power door lock switches are integral components of the driver door module (DDM) and passenger door module (PDM). The switches are two position normally open rocker switches. When placed in either the lock or unlock positions, the switches provide a direct input to the DDM or PDM. The DDM or PDM monitors these inputs and sends a Class 2 message indicating a change in the switch's respective position. Modules which activate the power door lock motors receive the Class 2 message and activate the motor in the appropriate direction to lock or unlock the vehicle's doors and liftgate. The rear door lock switch provides a lock and unlock signal to the body control module (BCM). The BCM upon receipt of a lock or unlock signal will control the rear door lock relays and also send a Class 2 message to the DDM and PDM to perform the appropriate function.
The modules which activate the power lock motors are:
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The DDM (driver door lock actuator).

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The PDM (passenger front door lock actuator).

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The BCM (both rear door lock actuators and cargo door/liftgate).
The DDM and PDM are directly connected to the respective door lock actuator through the door lock motor lock and unlock circuits. Once a door lock or unlock request has been received, the module will supply battery voltage to one side of the actuator and ground the other causing the doors to lock or unlock.
The rear passenger and cargo doors differ slightly in that they use lock and unlock relays. The relays supply and coil sides receive a constant voltage through the battery voltage supply circuit. The normally closed contacts are connected to ground and the control side is connected to the BCM. Once a door lock or unlock request has been received by the BCM, the BCM will ground the control side of the appropriate relay. This energizes the relay and allows voltage to be applied to either the door lock motor lock or unlock circuits. since the other side of the door lock actuator is connected to the normally closed contacts of the opposing relay to ground, the doors lock or unlock.
The first place to start is have a factory or equivalent scan tool hooked up , one that can read BCM DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes ! This could lead to a fix faster ! Watch these three videos !
Door Locks Go Crazy 1

Sep 16, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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Where is the door lock relay located?


The relay or switch may be shorting, check other door lock controls for correct function, this will rule out relay and isolate the switch or rule out master switch and isolate relay.

Nov 28, 2012 | 1992 GMC Yukon

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2005 Chevrolet Tahoe Power Windows and Power Locks not working.


The power windows an power locks are controlled by a module , DDM - driver door module . As far as the locks locking when you put the vehicle into reverse an unlocking when you put the vehicle into park , that's how there are suppose to work , automatic lock an unlock feature . When you put the vehicle into any gear from park the locks should lock . Did she hit window lockout function ?

The power door lock system consists of the following components:
• The driver door module (DDM)
• The passenger door module (PDM)
• The body control module (BCM)
• The driver information center (DIC)
• The rear door lock switch
• The door lock relay
• The door unlock relay
• The liftgate lock relay--utility vehicles with liftgate only
• The reversible door lock actuators in each of the doors and liftgate
• LOCKS 20A fuse (rear lock/unlock relay supply voltage)
• ECC 10A fuse (liftgate lock relay supply voltage .

Programmable Automatic Door Locks
The automatic door lock feature can be programmed to control the door lock system. The automatic door lock feature is factory programmed to have all doors lock and unlock. For detailed instructions on programming the automatic door locks, refer to Vehicle Personalization in Personalization.
When the automatic door lock feature is programmed to control the door lock system, the driver door module (DDM), passenger door module (PDM) and body control module (BCM) will lock the vehicle doors if the following inputs are true:
• Ignition 1 input is active.
• All door jamb switch inputs are inactive.
• Cargo door or liftgate/liftglass ajar inputs are inactive.
• Transmission is shifted out of park.
This automatic door lock function will only occur once per ignition cycle unless, a door jamb switch input changes state to active and back to inactive. Then the DDM, PDM and BCM will lock all doors again.
Once the automatic door lock feature has locked the doors, the BCM will then unlock all the doors when the transmission is shifted into park.
Driver, Passenger and Cargo Door Lock System Operation
The front power door lock switches are integral components of the driver door module (DDM) and passenger door module (PDM). The switches are two position normally open rocker switches. When placed in either the lock or unlock positions, the switches provide a direct input to the DDM or PDM. The DDM or PDM monitors these inputs and sends a Class 2 message indicating a change in the switch's respective position. Modules which activate the power door lock motors receive the Class 2 message and activate the motor in the appropriate direction to lock or unlock the vehicle's doors and liftgate. The rear door lock switch provides a lock and unlock signal to the body control module (BCM). The BCM upon receipt of a lock or unlock signal will control the rear door lock relays and also send a Class 2 message to the DDM and PDM to perform the appropriate function.
The modules which activate the power lock motors are:
• The DDM (driver door lock actuator).
• The PDM (passenger front door lock actuator).
• The BCM (both rear door lock actuators and cargo door/liftgate).
The DDM and PDM are directly connected to the respective door lock actuator through the door lock motor lock and unlock circuits. Once a door lock or unlock request has been received, the module will supply battery voltage to one side of the actuator and ground the other causing the doors to lock or unlock.
The rear passenger and cargo doors differ slightly in that they use lock and unlock relays. The relays supply and coil sides receive a constant voltage through the battery voltage supply circuit. The normally closed contacts are connected to ground and the control side is connected to the BCM. Once a door lock or unlock request has been received by the BCM, the BCM will ground the control side of the appropriate relay. This energizes the relay and allows voltage to be applied to either the door lock motor lock or unlock circuits. since the other side of the door lock actuator is connected to the normally closed contacts of the opposing relay to ground, the doors lock or unlock.

Mar 16, 2017 | 2005 Chevrolet Tahoe

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We have a 2001 Ford Escape with a small problem. The remote key fob locks the doors and unlocks the doors but the lights don't flash anymore when you lock the door. The horn also won't honk after hitting...


I think you need to reprogram the module, you deleted the horn chirp and light flash confirmation. he dealer can reprogram for you.


Customer Preference Items NOTE: If using the WDS, select Module Configuration and Programming, then follow the screen prompts.
NOTE: Make sure module is listed as supporting customer preference items and supports the specific item to be configured in the Module Configuration Index in this section.
  1. Select Service Bay Functions on the diagnostic tool.
  1. Select the module that contains the customer preference item to be programmed. Refer to the Module Configuration Index in this section.
  1. Select Customer Preference Items on the diagnostic tool.
  1. Select Module Option Content.
  1. Select the item to be enabled or disabled.
  1. Enable or disable the item as necessary to reflect the customer preference.
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Principles of Operation
Power Door Locks
The generic electronic module (GEM) controls the power door lock and keyless entry system. Lock and unlock operation is achieved through the use of internal relays in the GEM. The relays are all door lock, all door unlock and driver door unlock. The normal path of the relays is to ground.
Pressing the door lock control switch to lock or unlock sends a ground signal to the GEM. The same GEM pin is used for unlock and lock input. The unlock signal is a direct connection to ground. The lock signal is altered by an internal resistor in the door lock control switch. This varied resistance identifies lock or unlock command to the GEM.
The door locks can also be controlled by the door key cylinder switches. For the liftgate door lock switch, turning the key to lock or unlock sends a ground signal to the GEM. The GEM will then ground the all door lock or all door unlock relay supplying voltage to the actuators. Turning the driver door key cylinder to the lock position sends a ground signal to the GEM. The GEM will then ground the all door lock relay supplying voltage to the actuators. Turning the driver door key cylinder to unlock sends a ground signal to GEM. The GEM will ground the driver door unlock relay and supply voltage to only the driver door actuator. If a second unlock ground is received within three seconds of the first, the GEM will ground the all door unlock relay supplying voltage to the passenger door actuators (if 2-stage unlock is equipped).
Keyless Entry
The keyless entry remote transmitter sends a signal that is received by the GEM internal antenna. Depending on the signal received, the GEM module will ground the appropriate internal relay and lock all doors or unlock the driver door. If the unlock signal is received again within three seconds of the first unlock, the GEM will ground the internal all door unlock relay unlocking all doors. The lock and unlock relay output to the actuators is controlled by the GEM, the same as power door lock operation from the control switch.
If the signal received is for the panic button, the GEM will cycle ground to the park lamp relay coil and horn relay coil. The park lamps and horn will continue to cycle until the panic button is pressed again or the ignition switch is turned to the RUN position, or after the timer expires.

Dec 17, 2009 | 2005 Ford Escape

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Auto Door Locks


Automatic door locks on the 2001 Sonata doesn't exist. The doors are locked manually (by the driver) or by using the Keless Remote. To answer your question, YES, there is a separate relay for each function .. this means there is a relay which LOCKS the doors, and there is a separate relay which UNLOCKS the doors. They are located side-by-side on the I/P junction box (I/P = Instrument Panel).
They are both labeled "Lock", but one "UNLOCKS" while the other one 'LOCKS'.
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Apr 30, 2009 | Hyundai Sonata Cars & Trucks

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Power door locks on rear doors do not open


The rear doors have a separate relay for the lock and unlock function. There's a good chance the unlock relay is bad. The relays in question are located in the left instrument panel fuse block. Hope this helps

Oct 10, 2008 | 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD

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