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Rear defrost won't turn off.

My rear defrost won't turn off even when the car is shut off and drains the battery. I ended up pulling the fuse but it is the same one as the reverse lights use. Anyone have any ideas?

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  • jeremy_walcz May 11, 2009

    What has me hung up is that even when the Jeep is shut off the the switch still has power. When the rear defrost is working as it should you can't turn it on without the truck running.

  • Richard Scordino May 11, 2010

    possible that it is controlled by the body control module...don't have schematic for yours, but its something to look at. (or a hung up relay)

  • Richard Scordino May 11, 2010

    Check the has a delay that may be broken.



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Disconnect the cable that goes to the defroster at the rear windshield, this will allow you to put the fuse back for now. Check or replace the rear defroster switch. If its not the switch you have a short-circuit. You can try replacing the wires from the switch to the back windshield, you can use the same switch or an after market one will do.

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