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Grinding starter on my 1988 Ford Bronco II

I Am Having Problems With The Starter On My 1988 Ford Bronco II.It Keeps Grinding Really Bad And I Have Taken The Starter To Be Tested And It Is Fine.It Started Out As A Sloght Grinding And Then Gradually Got Worse And Then It Just Spun Making A Noise As If It Is Not Contacting At All So I Took Another Starter And Put It In And The Grinding Ceased For The First Few Times I Started It,but Now It Does It Again.Anyways,I Can Not Figure Out The Problem And Would Really Really Appreciate Some Advice.Also,I Have Another Bronco II Which I Took The Engine From And Put It Into The Eddie Bauer(which Is The One I Am Having The Problems With)and The XLT Had Starter Probems Too Before I Removed The Engine.Needless To Say I Am Stuck And Need To Figure Something Out.

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  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Well...I bought two Bronco II's,one is an '88 Xlt and the other is an '88 Eddie Bauer.The Eddie Bauer is the one I am driving now.I took the engine from the XLT and placed it into the Bauer.Anyways,when I put the engine in there,the fly wheel was fine and I have only had it running for about a month now.At the most,it has only been started 20 times at best.

  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Oh yeah,I forgot to mention also that I replaced the starter yesterday and the first couple starts sounded fine and then I drove and stopped at where I was heading and when I went to start it again,and it grinded again.

  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Is it possible to that there is not enough current going to the starter,causing the bendex drive to not fully enage on the flywheel???

  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Yes the fly wheel was fine.I inspected both flywheels, and took the one that was in good shape before putting the damn engine back in.You are an idiot.I needed some help and just got a stupid comment from you emissionwiz.Read the whole problem before completely declaring yourself a *******.If you would have had further questions about the scenario,I would have put them on here.(as if there is'nt an accurate enough description anyways)

  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Dont get me wrong,I greatly appreciate the help,but you gotta understand my frustration.I just installed the engine and had a real hell of a time doing so and then to hear that it could be the flywheel,after inspecting it and then putting it back together to find out that the fly wheel could have lost teeth after minimal use,by a starter,which is a softer metal,drives me nuts.I wish there was a way to look at it without having to seperate the engine and the trans.

  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Ok,thank you very very much.I am going to try to hit the starter with 12 volts from the jumper right now and see what happens.I will let you know what happens as soon as I am done checking it.Btw,I am sorry if I came off as a bit of a douche earlier,but I am a little stressed out with this problem at the moment,among other things. :S







  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Ok,thank you very very much.I am going to try to hit the starter with 12 volts from the jumper right now and see what happens.I will let you know what happens as soon as I am done checking it.Btw,I am sorry if I came off as a bit of a douche earlier,but I am a little stressed out with this problem at the moment,among other things. :S







  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Ok,thank you very very much.I am going to try to hit the starter with 12 volts from the jumper right now and see what happens.I will let you know what happens as soon as I am done checking it.Btw,I am sorry if I came off as a bit of a douche earlier,but I am a little stressed out with this problem at the moment,among other things. :S







  • sketchen420 May 11, 2009

    Ok,thank you very very much.I am going to try to hit the starter with 12 volts from the jumper right now and see what happens.I will let you know what happens as soon as I am done checking it.Btw,I am sorry if I came off as a bit of a douche earlier,but I am a little stressed out with this problem at the moment,among other things. :S







  • sketchen420 May 12, 2009

    I have 2 rebuilt starters that I have been using.Also,I tried hitting it with 12 volts like you were talking about but I am having some problems with my jumper so I just checked the continuity to the starter and have 12.3 volts coming from the starter relay and 11.88 volts at the wire which connects to the starter.I tried starting it again today and it grinded slightly,then started and then I drove it,came home and tried starting it again and it made real loud grinding again along with making a noise as if it were not hitting any teeth,just a sound of the starter spinning.I then looked at the teeth on the fly wheel(which is only about 30-40% of it,since it is hard to see with the bell housing cover there) and the teeth are still there but a few of them have burs on either side of the fly wheel.I have not noticed any missing teeth though.Maybe they are just worn out??Also,the starter sits right next to the exhaust and gets really hot,would the heat be an issue as to whether it would effect how the starter is working???

  • sketchen420 May 17, 2009

    Yeah,I have come to the conclusion that it is not the starter and definitely the flywheel.I have inspected the fly wheel and there are no broken teeth,they are just worn down sooo much that the starter is not engaging with them.I compared the new fly wheel to the old two that I have and there is much difference,lol.I will be changing the fly wheel within the next week(as soon as the weather clears up some)and hopefully I do not have a problem with this for a long time(or until I sell the truck).As for owning this "wonderful" vehicle,I am hard pressed for cash right now and picked up 2 1988 bronco's for 500 dollars and figured that I would have a parts vehicle too use also to save on some money.Including the flywheel,it has only cost me like 180 dollars to get running.Unfortunately,times are tough and this is what I have to work with in order to have transportation. :S

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    yadayada May 11, 2010

    OK, yes i do understand the frustration, I have been a Ford dealer Mechanic for 25 years now, here is what I know about your problem, the most common problem is the starter bendix/drive is defective, as far as the low voltage to the starter goes if you carefully jump 12 volts with a good jumper to the starter does it spin the engine and not grind? the other is issues are a misalignment of the starter motor on the mounting surface, the last is a bent flywheel or bad teeth. Have u tied a rebuilt starter or one of the very cheap to buy new gear reductions starters that Ford now sells as the replacement for your starter? let me know.





    here is picture of the newer gear drive starters, about $100

  • yadayada
    yadayada May 11, 2010

    Good luck my friend hope u find the problem.

  • yadayada
    yadayada May 11, 2010

    No the flywheel is not fine, as far as the starter drive goes u are guessing, these other guys gave u 100% accurate info based on the post info you wrote, Thanks for trying is not very nice, had a feeling u would do that. I will not help u anymore on the issue..

  • yadayada
    yadayada May 11, 2010

    You damaged flywheel starter driven teeth.

  • creggrushing
    creggrushing Mar 29, 2013

    starter bendix was most of this problem on mine 1987 ford ranger

  • creggrushing
    creggrushing Mar 29, 2013

    my starter was a rebuilt one and I only had it about 2 years and i didnt drive it much but i did get it under water at mud bog

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    cody bentley Nov 20, 2013

    I have the same problem with my 1985 ford ranger it will start 5 times with a new starter then about the 7th time it will grind like its going to tear the flywheel up again and its a brand new flywheel and brand new starter

  • cody bentley
    cody bentley Nov 20, 2013

    what should i do because buying a starter every 6times is kinda tough and gets irratating

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The sound you hear is the starter grinding against broken teeth on the flywheel, for that to be repaired the flywheel on the vehicle will need to be replaced.

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Need a new flywheel. sections of the teeth around the flywheel sometimes get broken off and thats what happens. one day, you'll start your car, get a funny grinding noise and after that it works fine and then it keeps getting worse and worse.

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  • mefredd May 17, 2009

    i take it from reading your posts....youve taken your starter off several times to test it right? ok, you know the hole that your starter goes into? get yourself a long pry bar or long screwdriver or even just anything that you can use to stick up in there and turn the flywheel and a good flashlight. you dont have to completely take the car apart to look at the flywheel. now chances are your flywheel is still where it was when the starter gear was grinding on it so at least one section of the broken teeth(if that in fact is your problem) will be right there or near the hole. if not post back and i'll try to think of another way to look at it. without dismantling the drivetrain.

  • mefredd May 17, 2009

    i have another solution...stop wasting time and money on a 1985 bronco 2 lol they arent the most hardy vehicles in the world. 

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    creggrushing Mar 29, 2013

    well its old but its mine, and it still runs ok for a newer ford I miss my old inline 6 . 250 never had a lot of problems and it got 20miles to the gal.and would beat some v8 when it was right.

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I am having the same problem on my 88 mustang gt. i have changed the starter and flywheel/flexplate and still it grinds. i can get to turn over if i turn the crank and at the right spot it will catch and start up runs perfect . iv come to find out that the starter bolt can work loose . if the top starter bolt does come loose at all it can rest on the bottom bolt and roll away from the flywheel/flexplate. also the block plate might effect the starter alignment . i haven't fixed mine yet but i think these ideas will help us both.

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