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Hi, when egnitin is turned to the on position and the engine is turning its not making any attempt to fire, when the key is truned in the off position all the dash lights are still illuminated and wont go out even when the key is out of the ignition!

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  • Damien murphy May 10, 2009

    thanks for the reply, ive now got everything back to normal, i had fuses mixed up in the engine bay fuel pumps and oil, battery, park and abs lights were all on when key was out of egnition, the earth strap from the egnition is loose and ive fitted a new one now, but ive changed fuses around now so its confusing, there is an alarm on the car but is not working but it is pluged in! what happenes now when the key is in the on position is all lights are on as normal and when turned to start they all go out and come back on again when sprung back to the on position! the battery is fully charged, the car was fine this morning until i went messing around with the fuses, ive mixed all the fuses inside the car up at this stage and have no diagram of where the right ones should be, so there a earfull of problems, thanlyou for the reply on a sunday top man

    regards damien from ireland.

  • Damien murphy May 11, 2009

    ive actuall bought the car for cheap money and there are a couple of parts missing, 600 euros to be precise, its a half finished project and a bit rough around the edges so to speak, but the engine is a thing ofbeauty and is something to be proud of owning,

    as it happenes the couple of parts missing include the fuse box cover and the owners manual so is sort of alkward ringing around garages n all that sort of thing,

    as it stands now ive got the engine cranking and sparking and its trying to start,

    it all started when i changed the timing belt on the car, everything was fine the car was flying, then a week later i noticed the timing cover was not put back correctly and everythinh had to come off and the cover put back properly, so that was ok until the tension pulley nut was squeesed to tight was sheered off, and i drove it around until the battery died,

    so i took the leads off the battery until it had been charged, by this time i had put a new pulley on and the battery was charging again,! so then the problems came,i feared when i disconected the leads off the battery id upset somethin electronical, the engine would just not run properly, it was misfiring high up in the revs and was using alot of petrol, basically the car was not running properly, thats when i went looking around the fuse boxes insde the car only to find a live wire running from the ignition sw to the air flow meter! beforehad there was no prob with starting (until yesterday) thats the story up to now, so im going to try and look for a loose earth and figure out the fuses, im just wondering if there is a chip in the key would that effect starting if the alarm is not working and by the looks of it has been bypassed but is still connected?

    im going to try and get to town and get another key cut because its a process of ellimination now at this stage!

    thanks again for your advice and help and hope to hear from you soon

    regards damien.

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    s_pra_army May 11, 2010

    the lights being on could be normal. it's a 2003, newer vehicles have delayed automatic off for the lights. Do they go out if u open a door? if you simply wait? or do they stay on the whole time?

    so, your car won't start? but it cranks? do you have an alarm installed? how long has this been happening? did you do anything differently since it last worked?

    Maybe got a key cut, but you didn't pay 200 dollars for the key with a chip?

    Give as much information as you can, thanks. I 'll try my best to help you out



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For the fuses, if you have the owners manual it should show you which fuse goes where. If it is not labeled on the fuse box cover, check your owners manual.

If the alarm is the reason your car wont start, make sure the hood is down, door closed (if its a manual transmission, in neutral and brakes applied) I don't know very much on alarm systems, Just that there is a hood switch, so the hood (aka Bonnet) must be shut and latched before the vehicle will start.

after that's all sorted out, it would be good to check if you have spark, fuel and compression (those are the three key factors for an engine to start)

I hope this helps, let me know what you have done.

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    s_pra_army May 11, 2009

    My next suggestion is for you to purchase a repair manual, you can get them from the dealership, or online HERE.

    Since it is a "project car" a repair manual will be very helpful to you.

    Like I said, I have only worked with 2 alarmed vehicles, they were both a hassle. The chip in the key is a manufacturer specific thing, it may or may not have been installed. Usually the key has nothing to do with an alarm system. Alarms, however, can cause problems just from being connected in the system, they truly are a hassle.

    Can you clarify something for me? ... The car no longer starts because the fuses are a mess? I'm slightly confused.



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