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Alternator Charging Problem- 1998 GMC JIMMY 4.3

I have a problem with the alternator not turning on after starting the vehicle.  After I start the vehicle the battery gauge stays at around 12 volts and the Battery/Charging idiot light stays on.  At times it takes anywhere from 15 seconds to 20 plus minutes for the alternator to kick in and the battery gauge shoots up to around 14 volts and the idiot light shuts off.  This problem never happens in freezing temperatures and never on morning startups, but always happens on a hot summer day after starting and stopping the vehicle throughout the day.  I have noticed that while the problem exists, and the idiot light is on, if I connect a battery charger to the battery and put it on the 200 amp setting the alternator immediately kicks in and the idiot light shuts off.  It seems light like there is a communication problem that is not relaying a signal to the alternator/regulator to turn on.  I have installed a new/remanufactured alternator and purchased a new battery, but the problem still exists.  I have had this problem for years and it seems like just recently it has become worse and is starting to leave me stranded as at times the alternator will not kick in and the battery drains right out.  I am wondering if the computer might be defective or I was also informed that the cluster may be defective as the battery gauge may not be sending a signal to the computer.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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  • johnsolar May 08, 2009

    The voltage regulator is in the alternator, which was already changed and problem still exists.  Thanks. 


  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Yes, a bad ground did come to mind.



    Another standard question: was the battery fully charged (12.3 - 12.8 volts) each time the alternator was replaced? If not, this can damage the alternator -- usually this precipitates a catastrophic failure, but it's possible it could create any number of mysterious, more subtle alternator behaviors.

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    You will probably brush this off, but from years of experience, symptoms like this usually get a lot of parts thrown at them and in many cases the solution is deceptively simple.



    Has anyone checked all relevant electrical wires / connections (harnesses / screws / nuts / etc.) for corrosion / damage / looseness / missing insulation?



    This is where I would start.

  • Dar
    Dar May 11, 2010

    It obviously isn't your gauge since it is leaving you stranded. It's definately not charging, sometimes. I am wondering if it could be something to do with your ignition switch. If not that i would carefully inspect your terminals on the alternator. It sounds like a partially grounded terminal.

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    First question, is the voltage regulator in the alternator or is it a separate component?

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Check alternator wire .make sure its fuse is tight .and check fuse link.also check all grounds.

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  • Jonah Oneal May 09, 2009

    look at the voltage regulator wires.

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