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1996 olds achieva check engine light remains on. Already replaced both oxygen censors and catalytic converter but the light remains on. Scan tool was placed on the o2 censors but it show "no activity".

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  • koreni2 May 03, 2009

    Yes the codes were reset.

  • koreni2 May 03, 2009

    Yes the codes were reset after the censors were replaced.

  • koreni2 May 03, 2009

    Guru,

    I really appreciate your help. The original codes translated to the top O2 censors needed replaced so I replaced both of them. We will definitely try your suggestion. One more question please, can you tell me where this ECM fuse would be located?

  • koreni2 May 05, 2009

    Hello Guru,

    We did look at both fuse boxes (under the hood and beside the dash) but none of the labels said "ECM". In the box beside the dash there was a fuse labeled O2 but that fuse was fine.

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Any new codes show up now?

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Did you reset the codes after replacing the sensors?

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What were the codes??? 
Try this, turn the ignition key to the on position and pull the ECM fuse out for 10 seconds, then place it back in and start the car.
The car may stall and let it, just restart it the second time and things should be fine. It's just the ECM leaning the Engine and Transmission. 
The check engine light should be off and go for a test drive. If there is a problem the check engine light will go back on after you travel over i believe 5 MPH.
Re scan and replace or repair fault in drive train  system.

  • Harvey N Tawatao
    Harvey N Tawatao May 04, 2009

    The ECM fuse is in the fuse box, Look at the label behind the cover of the fuse box lid.


    Good luck.

  • Harvey N Tawatao
    Harvey N Tawatao May 06, 2009

    I believe the fuse is in the dash behind the side panel. There should be two ECM fuse. Pull the ECM Batt fuse, the label sticker should be on the back side of the fuse cover. 


    Good luck, and keep me informed.

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The PCM has the ability to monitor this process by using a rear Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S 2). The rear HO2S 2, located in the exhaust stream past the catalytic converter, produces an output signal relative to the oxygen storage capacity of the catalytic converter. The PCM then calculates the ability of the catalytic converter to convert the exhaust emissions effectively. Whenever the catalytic converter is functioning properly, the rear HO2S 2 signal will be far less active than the signal produced by the front Oxygen Sensor 1 (O2S 1).


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