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Relay bypass The rear windows won't close and it isn't the fuse the motor went out. We just want to close the windows due to winter weather.

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    kristina bannister Oct 23, 2013

    The car is a 2003 pontiac montana.

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Check the switch for windows

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Only solution I know is either take the mechanism apart, close it, and put it back together, but much easier to buy a new motor.

Posted on Oct 23, 2013

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Open the rear hatch. Pull off the inner trim panel. Look to see if there is a little box with a bunch of wires connected to it. It may be at the lower edge, driver side. Turn the key on. Test for 12 volts at the solid BLUE wire (there is only 1 solid blue wire) that is connected to the box. Is there power? If not, check the 30 amp POWER fuse. If there IS power, this box may be bad. This is the power window relay for the rear hatch. The wiper/washer and the rear window motor power all come out of this box.
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SOURCE: location of fuses and relays for the rear window defroster

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SOURCE: 2005 Town Country front blower motor inop fuse/relay ok

Break Down And Replace The Blower Motor


REMOVAL

WARNING: ON VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AIRBAGS, DISABLE THE AIRBAG SYSTEM BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY STEERING WHEEL, STEERING COLUMN, OR INSTRUMENT PANEL COMPONENT DIAGNOSIS OR SERVICE. DISCONNECT AND ISOLATE THE BATTERY NEGATIVE (GROUND) CABLE, THEN WAIT TWO MINUTES FOR THE AIRBAG SYSTEM CAPACITOR TO DISCHARGE BEFORE PERFORMING FURTHER DIAGNOSIS OR SERVICE. THIS IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO DISABLE THE AIR-BAG SYSTEM. FAILURE TO TAKE THE PROPER PRECAUTIONS COULD RESULT IN AN ACCIDENTAL AIRBAG DEPLOYMENT AND POSSIBLE PERSONAL INJURY OR DEATH OR DEATH.

NOTE: The blower motor is located on the passenger side of the vehicle under the instrument panel. The blower motor can be removed from the vehicle without having to remove the HVAC housing.

  1. Disconnect and isolate the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the passenger side cowl trim panel.
  3. Position the carpet to access the front upper screw that secures the air inlet housing.
  4. Remove the recirculation door actuator.
  5. Disconnect the blower motor wire lead connector from the blower motor resistor or power module, depending on application.
    1. Remove the one screw (from the top) that secures the lower air inlet housing to the upper air inlet housing.
    2. Remove the four screws (from the bottom) that secure the lower air inlet housing to the upper air inlet housing and remove the lower HVAC housing.
    3. Push the rubber grommet through the opening in the lower air inlet housing.
    4. Route the blower motor wire lead through the opening in the lower air inlet housing and remove the lower air inlet housing from the vehicle.
    5. Position the recirculation-air door as necessary to access and remove the three screws that secure the blower motor to the lower half of the HVAC housing.
    6. Gently flex the recirculation air door downward to gain access to remove the blower motor from the HVAC housing. NOTE: To aid in installation, note the position of the blower motor mounting tabs prior to removal
      1. Remove the blower motor from the HVAC housing by rotating and tilting the blower motor as necessary.
      INSTALLATION

      1. Gently flex the recirculation-air door downward to gain access to install the blower motor into the HVAC housing.
      2. Position the blower motor to the HVAC housing and tilt and rotate the blower motor as necessary to install it into the HVAC housing.
      3. Align the blower motor mounting tabs to the locations noted during removal and install the three screws that secure the blower motor to the HVAC housing. Tighten the screws to 2 N·m (17 in. lbs.).
      4. Route the blower motor wire lead through the opening in the lower air inlet housing and seat the rubber grommet.
      5. Position the recirculation door pivot shaft into the lower air inlet housing and install the inlet housing.
      6. Install the four screws (from the bottom) that secure the lower air inlet housing to the upper air inlet housing and the lower HVAC housing. Tighten the screws to 2 N·m (17 in. lbs.).
      7. Install the one screw (from the top) that secures the lower air inlet housing to the upper air inlet housing. Tighten the screw to 2 N·m (17 in. lbs.).
      8. Connect the blower motor wire lead connector to the blower motor resistor or power module, depending on application.
      9. Install the recirculation door actuator.
      10. Reposition the carpet.
      11. Install the passenger side cowl trim panel.
      12. Reconnect the negative battery cable.
      13. Perform the heater-A/C control calibration procedure.

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SOURCE: 2001 Odyssey Rear quarter windows

sounds like the motors are getting power but the gear on the motor is damaged. Do you possibly have kids? If the windows are opened or closed without using the control switch it can cause damage. read your owners manual to confirm.

Posted on Apr 25, 2009

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SOURCE: only front passenger power window won't work.

Yes it could. Some cars have a fuse for each window. Check your fuse boxes ( diagrams of what fuse powers which circut should be on the back of the fuse box cover) to see if that is the case. Replace fuse if appropriate.

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