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Car overheating what causes the car to overheat the dealer says the water pump is fine

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  • shoop006 Apr 23, 2009

    could it be the cat

  • shoop006 May 07, 2009

    WELL REPLACED THE T STAT AND WATER PUMP AND STILL DOSE THE SAME

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Most cars have a thermostat on the return to the engine block. It is designed to open and close at a certain temperature range. This is what helps to regulate the water temperature circulating through your engine. These thermostat valves get old, corrosion can build on them, or the coil that's responsible for opening it at the designed temperature quits opening all the way or all together.

Things to check for in your particular vehicle type:

1) Coolant Temperature Sensor
2) Radiator (Make sure have the right mixture of water to coolant ratio)
3) Engine fan (cools water in the radiator)
4) Thermostat (opens and closes allowing water to circulate through engine)
5) Of course, the water pump which you said tested fine.

I can be of more assistance if necessary.

Posted on Apr 23, 2009

  • Jerry Apr 23, 2009

    Well, it would depend where exactly where the cat would have gotten stuck! ;-)

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