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I have a 1999 grand am se. It has error codes P0172 (system too rich) and P0404 (EGR open malfunction). The car starts and idles but has almost no power (can barley get over 30 mph). The motor also runs hot. I read some stuff on-line that leads me to think the cat converter is plugged. Is there a way to test for a bad cat converter? I plan to clean up the EGR internals to see if that solves the problem, but the cat converter is a bigger job so wanted some input on that before I mess with it.

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Yes there is a way to test the cat take out the oxygen sensor right in front of the cat and start the car if it runs fine then your cat is plugged what you are doing is opening the exhaust so it can breath hope this helps

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Exhaust Gas Recirculation System Is the main problem here. the other code P0118 may be a bad temprature sensor or your thermostate needs to be changed. Last it could be a weak water pump. 

So what is an EGR system and how does it work? EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation, and as its name implies, this system allows exhaust gasses from your car to be re-circulated into the engine, helping to reduce emissions. These systems are mostly comprised of the EGR valve, a DPFE (Delta Pressure Feedback EGR) sensor, hoses, a vacuum regulator, some vacuum lines, wiring, the computer and the exhaust tube leading to the valve itself. 
The car's wiring can be tested in the normal fashion by looking for broken and lose wire, and all vacuum lines can be checked easily for cracks, leaks and correct routing.
The last thing i would then check is the the EGR valve, EGR vacuum regulator and DPFE sensor (or similar flow sensor).
I hope this helps and good luck

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I hope the attached will help, but you may need to talk to your dealer.


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Without Onboard Diagnostics (OBD-II)
2 Distributor no Signal.
3 Distributor G Signal.
7 Fault on SGT Signal.
8 Mass Air Flow Sensor.
9 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor.
10 Intake Air Temperature Sensor.
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14 Atmospheric Pressure Sensor.
15 Oxygen Sensor.
16 EGR Valve Position Sensor.
17 Feedback System.
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19 Injector No. 2 open or short.
20 Injector No. 3 open or short.
21 Injector No. 4 open or short.
24 Fuel Pump Relay open or short.
25 Pressure Regulator Control Solenoid Valve.
26 Purge Control Solenoid Valve.
28 Solenoid Valve (EGR) open or short.
34 Idle Speed Control Solenoid Valve.
35 Deteriorated Injector.
36 Deteriorated Air Flow Sensor.
37 Intake System Air Leakage.
41 Variable Inertia Charging System Solenoid Valve.
46 A/C Cut Relay open or short.
48 Power Stage Group 1 Malfunction (inside ECM). Injector 1-4 Purge Solenoid Valve, EGR Solenoid Valve or Damaged Power Stage.
49 Power Stage Group 2 Malfunction (inside ECM). Idle Speed Control Valve Failure or Damaged Power Stage.
56 Idle Speed Control Valve Closing Coil open or short.
57 A/C Compressor Input Signal short.
73 Vehicle Speed Sensor open or short.
87 Malfunction Indicator Lamp short Circuit.
88 ECM Data.
99 Battery.





OBD-II

P0100 Mass Air Flow or Volume Air Flow Circuit Malfunction.
P0101 Mass Air Flow or Volume Air Flow Circuit Range/Performance problem.
P0102 Mass Air Flow or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input.
P0103 Mass Air Flow or Volume Air Flow Circuit High Input.
P0107 MAP/BARO Circuit Low Input.
P0108 MAP/BARO Circuit High Input.
P0110 A/T Circuit Malfunction.
P0115 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit Malfunction.
P0116 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit Range/Performance Condition.
P0117 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit Low Input.
P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit High Input.
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P0123 APP/TPP Sensor Switch High Input - Circuit A.
P0125 Insufficient Coolant Temperature for Closed Loop Fuel Control.
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P0131 Oxygen Sensor Circuit Low Voltage - Bank 1 Sensor 1.
P0132 Oxygen Sensor Circuit High Voltage - Bank 1 Sensor 1.
P0133 Oxygen Sensor Circuit Slow Response - Bank 1 Sensor 1.
P0134 Oxygen Sensor Circuit No Activity detected - Bank 1 Sensor 1.
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P0138 Oxygen Sensor Circuit High Voltage - Bank 1 Sensor 2.
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P0172 System too Rich - Bank 1.
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P0262 Injector Circuit High - Cyl. 1.
P0264 Injector Circuit Low - Cyl. 2.
P0265 Injector Circuit High - Cyl. 2.
P0267 Injector Circuit Low - Cyl. 3.
P0268 Injector Circuit High - Cyl. 3.
P0270 Injector Circuit Low - Cyl. 4.
P0271 Injector Circuit High - Cyl. 4.
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P0301 Misfire detected - Cyls. 1-4.
P0302 Misfire detected - Cyls. 1-4.
P0303 Misfire detected - Cyls. 1-4.
P0304 Misfire detected - Cyls. 1-4.
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P0326 Knock Sensor 1 Circuit Range/Performance - Bank 1 or Single Sensor.
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor Malfunction - Circuit A.
P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor Range/Performance - Circuit A.
P0340 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit Malfunction.
P0342 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit Low Input.
P0343 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit High Input.
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P0403 EGR Circuit Malfunction.
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P0422 Main Catalyst Efficiency below Threshold - Bank 1.
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P0442 Evaporative Control System - Small Leak detected.
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P0446 Evaporative Vent Control Circuit Malfunction.
P0447 Evaporative Vent Control Circuit Open.
P0448 Evaporative Vent Control Circuit Short.
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P0453 Evaporative Control System Pressure Sensor High Input.
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P0507 Idle Air Control System Malfunction - RPM Higher than expected.
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P0732 A/T Gear 2 Improper Ratio.
P0733 A/T Gear 3 Improper Ratio.
P0734 A/T Gear 4 Improper Ratio.
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P0753 Shift Solenoid "A" Electrical.
P0755 Shift Solenoid "B" Malfunction.
P0758 Shift Solenoid "B" Electrical.
P0760 Shift Solenoid "C" Malfunction.
P1000 Readiness Function Code.
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P1250 Pressure Regulator Control Solenoid Valve Open or Short.
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P1309 Chassis Acceleration Sensor Signal High.
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P1386 Knock Sensor Control Zero Test.
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P1450 Excessive Vacuum Leak.
P1455 Fuel Tank Sending Unit Open or Short (1.8L).
P1457 Purge Solenoid Valve Low System Malfunction.
P1458 A/C Compressor Control Signal Malfunction.
P1485 EGR Solenoid Valve Vacuum Open or Short.
P1486 EGR Solenoid Valve Vent Open or Short.
P1487 EGR Boost Sensor Solenoid Valve Open or Short.
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P1497 EGR Stepper Motor Malfunction - Circuit 2 (1.8L).
P1498 EGR Stepper Motor Malfunction - Circuit 3 (1.8L).
P1499 EGR Stepper Motor Malfunction - Circuit 4 (1.8L).
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P1506 Idle Air Control Valve Opening Coil Voltage High.
P1507 Idle Air Control Valve Closing Coil Voltage Low.
P1508 Idle Air Control Valve Closing Coil Voltage High.
P1523 VICS Solenoid Valve.
P1586 A/T-M/T Codification.
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P1614 MIL Request Circuit Voltage High.
P1624 MIL Request Signal from TCM to ECM.
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P1632 Battery Voltage Detection Circuit for Alternator Regulator (1.8L).
P1633 Battery Overcharge.
P1634 Alternator "B" Open (1.8L).
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P1743 Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid Valve Open or Short.
P1794 Battery or Circuit Failure.
P1795 4WD Switch Signal Malfunction.
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