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Damaged ignition cylinder lock

Someone damaged the ignition cylinder lock on my vehicle while trying to steal it. A screwdriver or bladed instrument was jammed into the ignition to force the car to start. There is no deformation of the keyhole itself and there are small metal shavings inside the cylinder. There is no damage to the wires leading to the ignition assembly.

I can insert the key about half-way, but no further. I can turn the key to all positions in the ignition as well but nothing happens (it does not ''catch'' at each position and my car battery is also dead). I cannot tell if the tumblers are destroyed, or if there is a removable obstruction.

After performing some research, it turns out that I will need to replace the ignition cylinder lock (about $50) or the entire ignition cylinder lock assembly (about $250 to $300).

With the given information, is it worth trying to repair or clean out the cylinder? It is difficult to guess the result, since I also need to replace the battery. If I must replace the cylinder lock or assembly, would anyone advise going to a junk yard to retrieve the required part (I do not know if I can even get the keys that match the ignition).

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SOURCE: 2005 honda civic ignition tumbler

Take it to a locksmith. You don't want to risk pulling it down yourself especially where the immobiliser harness is concerned, in addition Honda tumblers are really hard to source, the defectives ones will have to be removed. You need an experienced locksmith to do this.

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Could be.

Also the jiggling thing could be a coincidence. :0)

Tell me this.... when you turn the key, do you hear a CLICK?? If so your starter is probably bad.

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Posted on Jan 12, 2009

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When the battery is disconnected and replaced and when the battery is drained and then recharged, the anti-theft device in your car was activated.

Refer to your Manual to arm and disarm the anti-theft device, it should reset

If this does not work using the remote, try locking and unlocking the driver side door with the key and IMMEDIATELY START the car.

Posted on Jan 16, 2009

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You need to take this to your local Honda Dealer, before you cause more electrical or engine damage.

A vehicle that has been submerged can have water inside the engine, this can cause what's called "Hydrolock"and if it was to start for a moment, it could destroy the entire engine or at least do expensive major damage.

If the Electrical system is wet in the wrong places, remember water is a conductor and you keep trying to start it, bad things may happen. Think about what would happen if you poured a glass of water into your home computer tower. Most modern cars have at least 6 onboard computers connected via a network system called "multiplexing". Your electrical ignition switch may have fried out, locking it in place.

You need to get this looked at by the right people.

Posted on May 06, 2009

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The fact that the ignition was possibly damaged when the car was stolen may or may not have something to do with your problem., but If you want to test the circuit, you can run a fairly heavy INSULATED wire between your pos. battery post and the SMALL terminal on the solenoid (just touch the end to the solenoid). If the starter turns, you may have a ignition switch, neutral start switch, or some other wiring problem. If the starter does not turn (or if the solenoid doesn't even click) I would think that you need to check the battery charge.
Hope this is helpful.

Posted on Nov 02, 2009

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Instructions how to step by step replace ignition lock cylindor for an 1999 oldsmobile intrigue


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IGNITION SWITCH AND LOCK CYLINDER REPLACEMENT

1. Disconnect battery
2. Disable Supplemental Restraint System (Airbags)
3. Remove traction control switch from rear of center console plate
4. Open console lid and remove screws at front of console
5. Pull console plate up to release clips and slide over shifter
6. Pull rearward to release clips retaining instrument panel accessory trim plate to instrument panel
7. Remove screws attaching radio to instrument panel
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10. Remove knee bolster and knee bolster bracket from driver's side below steering column
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12. Pull out instrument panel cluster trim plate to release from retainers
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15. Remove screws from IPC and pull IPC out
16. Disconnect electrical connectors from IPC and remove IPC from the instrument panel
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18. Turn ignition switch to the ACC position and remove park lock cable from ignition switch
19. Turn ignition switch to ON position
20. Depress and hold locking tab on right side of ignition switch with a small, flat-bladed screwdriver and pull ignition lock cylinder from ignition switch
21. Remove ignition switch bezel from ignition lock cylinder
22. Remove screws attaching ignition switch to bracket
23. Remove ignition switch through the IPC opening
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    Remove the Ignition Switch
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  2. Remove the instrument cluster by removing the bezel screws with a screwdriver and prying the bezel off with a prying tool or flathead screwdriver.

  3. Remove the two screws holding the ignition switch in place with a screwdriver.

  4. Push the ignition switch about one inch toward the front of the vehicle so that it will clear the mounting bracket. Lift the switch up and out from behind the instrument panel.

  5. Disconnect the electrical connectors from the ignition switch. Put the key in the ignition and turn it the Run position.

  6. Press the spring-loaded pin on the side of the ignition switch with a small screwdriver. Pull the lock cylinder out by the key.

  7. Install the New Ignition Switch
  8. Place the ignition key in the new ignition cylinder and push the cylinder into place in the ignition housing. Turn the key to the off position and remove it.

  9. Connect the electrical wires to the back of the ignition switch.

  10. Put the switch assembly in position in the cluster and install and tighten the two screws with a screwdriver.

  11. Install the instrument cluster bezel and attach the two screws with a screwdriver.

  12. Replace the airbag fuse in the driver's side fuse panel. Connect the negative battery cable with a wrench. Enter the code for the Theft-lock system into the radio.

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Ignition Lock Cylinder REMOVAL & INSTALLATION Functional Lock The following procedure applies to vehicles that have functional lock cylinders. Such cylinders either have a key available or known key numbers from which a key can be made.
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Turn the lock cylinder key to the RUN position.
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  7. Using a 3?8 in. (10mm) diameter drill, carefully drill down the middle of the ignition key slot approximately 1 3?4 in. (44mm) until the lock cylinder breaks loose from its breakaway base. Remove the lock cylinder and drill shavings from the lock cylinder housing.
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the ignition switch is an electrical part. The lock cylinder is whre the key goes and it activates the ignition switch. If you pulled the lock cylinder out, you could operate the car with a screwdriver.
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this is 96 taurus, don't have 92 sorry

Section 11-05: Steering Column Switches 1996 Taurus, Sable Workshop Manual
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION Ignition Switch Removal
  1. Disconnect battery ground cable (14301).
  1. Remove lower instrument panel steering column cover (04459).
  1. Rotate ignition switch lock cylinder (11582) to the RUN position.
  1. Disconnect the ignition switch electrical connector.
  1. Remove the two screws retaining ignition switch (11572).
  1. Disengage the ignition switch from the actuator.
Installation
  1. NOTE: A new replacement ignition switch assembly will be set in the RUN position as received.

    Adjust the ignition switch by sliding the carrier to the ignition switch RUN position.
  1. Make sure that the ignition switch lock cylinder is in the RUN position. The RUN position is achieved by rotating the ignition switch lock cylinder approximately 90 degrees from the LOCK position.
  1. Install the ignition switch pin into the actuator. It may be necessary to move the ignition switch slightly back and forth to align the ignition switch mounting holes with the lock cylinder housing threaded holes.
  1. Install retaining screws. Tighten to 5.6-7.9 Nm (50-69 lb-in).
  1. Connect electrical connector to ignition switch.
  1. Connect battery ground cable. Check ignition switch for proper function, including START and ACC positions. Also, make certain that the column is in the LOCK position.
  1. Install lower instrument panel steering column cover with screws.
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Section 11-05: Steering Column Switches 1996 Taurus, Sable Workshop Manual
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION Ignition Switch The ignition switch (11572), which is mounted on the steering actuator housing (3F723), operates in the following manner:
  • The ignition switch is cycled through rotation of the ignition switch lock cylinder (11582) through a pin which is part of the ignition switch.
  • The ignition switch lock cylinder also controls the mechanism which provides a positive lock for the transaxle linkage and the steering system.
  • The locking mechanism is located in the steering column housing.
The ignition switch lock cylinder positions are:
  • ACC
  • LOCK
  • OFF
  • RUN
  • START
The key can be removed from the ignition switch lock cylinder with the column-shift transaxle only when the shift lever is in PARK position and the key is in LOCK position.
  • The ACC position operates while the steering and transaxle remain locked.
  • The engine shuts off when the key is turned to the OFF position without locking the steering or transaxle.
Blade Type
The ignition switch has blade-type terminals that engage with one multiple connector. The multiple connector is secured to the ignition switch by an integral connector fastener.

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