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TIming Belt 2000 VW Jetta GLS 1.8T

Hello All! I am replacing the timing belt on my 2000 VW Jetta GLS 1.8 Turbo. I have a list of other items a mechanic said I needed to have fixed at the same time as the timing belt, but I am not sure if he is just trying to make me fix things at his shop. Do all of these parts have to be new in order for the new timing belt to work? I know I definitely need the timing belt, so other than that, if I do not have to have these parts new for the belt to work, what would you consider imperative to have replaced? -Timing Belt -Water Pump -Valve Cover Gasket -Thermostat -Cam Seal -Main Drive Belt -PCV Valve -Cam Shaft Seal and -Front Crank Seal
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Lrb2199: What this shop has suggested in terms of replacement is pretty much the norm.
1st, if the timing belt lets go or if it jumps time you are going to be hocking the kids to pay for the repairs.
You are looking at a Diesel engine which gets a little on the toasty side to begin with. The motor oil sometimes, depending on the selection may not be too kind on the oil seals.
When you are replacing the timing belt, there is not much more effort involved to remove the front crank and cam seals and replace them with new ones because you are right there! It's a matter of sliding a gear off or unbolting a gear to gain access to a seal.
As for the Water pump, Water pumps don't last for ever and will start to seep through what is referred to as the "WEEP" hole.
If the seal fails, antifreeze will leak onto the timing belt. Antifreeze is a very slippery substance and can potentially cause the engine to jump time. So, you have a water pump that is 9 years old and HOW MANY MILES ON IT? Personally, I would suggest putting another one on. Thermostats also have a limited service life. The part is not that expensive and with the repairs being what they are, often shops throw the labor in on replacing some parts such as thermostats if they are not a big deal. Main drive belts, again, it is a wear item, it could be well worn, possibly may have another 5,000 miles on it, but you have the opportunity to have a new one installed for just the cost of the part rather than pay labor 6 months down the road. The valve cover has to be removed to access the timing belt on some engines because of the way they are configured. Again, the part may not be that expensive, and the opportunity is there to do it while the timing belt is being replaced.
OR, the costs are nominal. Valve cover gaskets on the turbo diesel VW's do start to leak, so take advantage of the opportunity.
I can understand exactly where you are coming from because it is frightening sometimes to hear people tell their stories about what they had to pay for repair on their cars.
Brake shops as an example (NOT ALL OF THEM) seem to be notorious for selling expensive work which may not really need to be done. Example: I have been in business for 28 going on 29 years. I do not sell calipers, rotors, brake master cylinders and other costly items on the majority of the brake work which comes through my shop. WHY? Because they do not need those parts!
I had a customer who learned the hard way. We had given him a quote for brakes. In this case he did need rotors on his Mercedes.
WE use "ATE" rotors and "TEXTAR" pads which are original equipment parts. They cost a little bit more, but I don't have comebacks (complaints). The husband had to leave town and the wife thought we were too high so she called one of the national chains brake shops. They suckered her in at a price over a hundred dollars lower than mine. When she left their establishment her repair bill was a little over a thousand dollars more than my quote.
They sold her calipers, rotors, brake master, system flush, and a hot wax enema! I don't see how they can get away with things like that? I know for a FACT what that car needed because the car has been in here for regular service for over four years. His wife just thought she could save some money! I guess she did HUH?
Anyway, it sounds like your guy is on the up and up.
Got any more questions? I'll be happy to answer them.
Good Luck

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    lrb2199: Without trying to ruffle anyone's feathers, the purpose of preventative maintenance is to perform certain services and replace certain parts which are KNOWN to fail after a vehicle has gotten some mileage racked up on it as well as father time working against certain parts which are prone to deteriorate.

    Is it really that smart to wait until you experience a failure before you replace a component? If one is to apply the same logic, why not wait until the timing belt breaks?

    If your water pump fails and you are not paying attention to the engine temp. Overheat an engine, especially a diesel and you can potentially turn it into scrap!

    Although highly unlikely, I have run into a few instances in my career where oil seals have failed which lead to catastrophic results.

    Try to envision oil OR antifreeze getting onto your timing belt.

    Want to make bets as to how long it will take for a diesel engine to jump time if it's a big leak? SO DON'T RISK IT BY MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE IT ISN'T DOING IT NOW, IT WON'T BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WEIGH THE ODDS. DO YOU HAVE LOW MILEAGE AND A FAIRLY NEW VEHICLE? I CAN SEE FORGOING THE OTHER PARTS, BUT NOT A DIESEL WITH NEARLY 10 YEARS ON IT! THAT'S INSANITY!

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Unless your leaking oil out the front and top of the motor,and overheating I would say no you don't need all that replaced.

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