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Power mirrors only function right and down, 05 acura TL

Both right and left control of power mirrors functions only in right turn and down turn. Will not go up or left either mirror, driver or passenger. Suspect bad switch, possible mirror control modeule. $$$$ ?????????

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I belive you are right in saying it is just the direction switch because i have never heard of both mirrors going out just like each other and at the exact same time. you do not need to go to a dealer to get the switch but you can go to any parts store and get it and this will save you about 25-50% off the acura dealers price

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• If DTC B1590 is set by itself, the left vertical position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery
• If DTC B1610 is set by itself, the right horizontal position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery
• If DTC B1620 is set by itself, the right vertical position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
• If DTCs B1580 and B1590 are both set, the left 5 volt reference or low reference circuit(s) maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
• If DTCs B1610 and B1620 are both set, the right 5 volt reference or low reference circuit(s) maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
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