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Hard Clutch and 1st and 2nd Gear Shifting is hard

Hi,
I have a 6 Months old car, 10000kms ran. I have hard clutch problem. and gear shifting is hard for 1st and 2nd gear.

Recently 20 days back got the second service done, they have replaced clutch plate etc.. After 1000 kms now getting this problem.

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  • harsha_kodna Apr 17, 2009

    Let me explain in detail.



    After Car reached around 9000 kms, clutch was hard and it was replaced during the second service. after running 1500 kms vehicle brokedown and the reason was because of dry shaft lock got opened.



    After getting that corrected now again i am facing clutch hard and gear shifting problem again. This must be because of vehicle defect (or during second service clutch was not replaced properly)



    Hyundai says they have no warranty for clutch as it is a wear and tear part. and it will be usually because of wrong driving.



    The clarrification i required are,



    1. What is the relation b/w clutch and dry shaft? are they related and can one cause problem with other?

    2. Can dry shaft problem come because of wrongly replacement of clutch?

    3. First time it become hard after 9000kms and second time how can it become hard again in 1000 kms (even if assuming I am a bad driver and overused clutch, my driving would have improved during 9000 kms?



    I strongly believe either there is some defect in the car, or they have not properly replaced the clutch during second service.



    Please guide me so that i can fight with Hyundai.



    Regards,



    Harsha Kodnad

  • harsha_kodna Apr 17, 2009

    Hi,



    Thanks a lot for your answer.



    So i assume second clutch is not of my fault. I do not know anything internal about car expect driving it :)



    Let me explain the dry-shaft problem occurred:

    After stopping the vehicle for few minutes, applying 1st (or any) gear and releasing clutch, did not move the vehicle forward. Vehicle was like as it is neutral gear and accelarator being applied. some small crancky noise was comming. Hyundai explained this to me as Dry-shaft lock being got opened somehow (even though they did not give me answer on how it can happen on a 6 month old vehicle)



    Did the dry-shaft problem (for which hyundai had to tow my vehicle and repair it) is also because of clutch related issue? If not what made dry-shaft getting open?



    Regards,

    Harsha Kodnad

  • harsha_kodna Apr 18, 2009

    Thanks a lot.

  • harsha_kodna May 03, 2009

    Thanks a lot. I have visited the dealer it was the pronblem with clutch cable which had got skinned out. it was replaced free of cost

  • yadayada
    yadayada May 11, 2010

    sounds to me like you are just hard on clutch's

  • Richard Scordino May 11, 2010

    You are well within your warranty...bring it back and have it fixed!!! 10K and the clutch gone already??? That's a bit odd to begin with.

  • yadayada
    yadayada May 11, 2010

    take it back for warranty

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The clutch bearing is supposed to have a groove on the inside where it slides on the shaft That groove is supposed to have a heavy grease applied to it to prevent the bearing running dry on the collar it slides on.Regardless of your driving style, that grease is intended to remain there for the life of the clutch, (generally every clutch I have ever replaced still had some remaining lube there unless the bearing itself failed from a material defect which caused it to overheat and cause that grease to then run out of the retaining groove) I'm not there and can't see the old parts, but in my opinion the first clutch may have failed partially because of your lack of skill in using a stick shift vehicle but the second failure obviously is not your fault if the information you have posted is correct.
Good luck

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  • Richard Scordino Apr 17, 2009

    I suggest that at this point you need to become informed about exactly parts you are dealing with.You can get an exploded view of your transmission from any auto repair manual at a local library or buy a vehicle specific manual such as haynes) The clutch will become"hard) if the component called a throwout bearing begins to seize on the extension that is part of the front transmission input shaft bearring cover. The throwout bearing has a hole in its center that slides back and forth on that shaft. Assembled, it looks like a metal doughnut sliding on an empty toilet-paper roll. (you may be calling that cover shaft a "dry shaft" as I outlined before, that shaft is not dry, but has grease on it that is contained in the groove on the inside bore of the throwout bearing. The shaft acts as a guide to keep the bearing in place. The bearing moves in or out when you press down/release the clutch, making the clutch itself operate.
    If that were to be run dry, the two components would eventually weld themselves together, then the pedal will get hard because the bearing can no longer slide back and forth as intended, then the clutch would fail to operate. If you continually keep your foot on the clutch pedal, you can cause the bearing to overheat and fail...it is intended to work on a momentary basis...when at rest, it does not contact the clutch and does not spin with the clutch..
    My problem with what you have said is that the "dry shaft has become open" This is not possible. However a drive shaft can come out of the transmission...but a driveshaft has nothing to do with your clutch. Or ,no more than a tire or wheel would. Therefore I believe that your shop is simply using the incorrect name for the part (check a parts manual and I'll bet they dont list that as a component) Even if not specifically covered under warranty, an extremely early failure of this part and clutch should be considered a defect by the dealer. (but I can't tell them their business...it's only my opinion.


  • Richard Scordino May 03, 2009

    Glad that they took care of it...And there was no "dry shaft \" involved (sounded a bit odd to begin with) Well, if anything, you have learned a bit about your cars clutch, and did not have to pay!!! Sounds like a "win-win" to me!!!!

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