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Power window The drivers window will go down but not up?

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Test the Switch that doesn't work in the up position.

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My power seats and only the power windows on right side quit working on my 2007 silverado classic lt1500 I replaced the circuit breakers already and it did not fix the problem


Does you truck have Memory Seats ? There are 2 options of power seat systems available in full size trucks. The first is 6 way driver and passenger power seats without memory. The second is an 8-way driver seat plus 4-way lumbar with memory, heat and optional cool function.
If you replaced the circuit breaker , did you check for B+ voltage at the switch ? If you have memory seats there is a control module that is in the mix.
For the power windows same thing here ,the BCM - body control module is involved .A factory Tech 2 scan tool is still the best tool to use ,checking data parameters .
The switch for the front passenger power window has 2 positions UP and DOWN, and it's position is a direct input into the PDS. Upon receiving a request for power window operation (switch activation), the PDS supplies voltage to the power window motor right front up or down circuit and grounds the opposite and the power window motor runs to drive the window UP or DOWN.
The front passenger power window can also be operated from the driver master control. The front passenger window switch on the driver master control has 2 positions UP and DOWN and it's position is a direct input into the DDS. Upon receiving a request for front passenger power window operation, the DDS transmits a GMLAN message indicating the changed switch position. When the PDS receives this message, the PDS supplies voltage to the power window motor right front up or down circuit and grounds the opposite and the power window motor runs to move the window UP or DOWN.
GMLAN - is a data bus communication network that vehicle modules talk together on.
Rear Passenger Power Window Operation (RPO A31/AN3/DL3)
The body control module (BCM) monitors the window UP/DOWN command from the DDS. When the rear window UP or DOWN command is received, the BCM sends a signal to the appropriate rear window switch. The rear window switches continuously monitor the up and down signal circuits, if no function is being commanded, the signal voltage is at approximately B+ voltage. If the UP or DOWN function is commanded, the BCM signal voltage drops approximately 5 volts and the appropriate rear window switch will then command the window in the UP or DOWN direction.
Your best bet would be to take your truck to a GM dealer !
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Nov 04, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a saturn ion 06 coupe, neither of my windows are working! I have checked the fuse replaced both motord\regulators and the switches. They're still not working!! Plz help


Please do these check and let me know.

Diagnostic Fault Information

Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

Circuit/System Description

The power window system will operate any time the ignition is the ACC or RUN position. The power window system will also operate whenever the body control module (BCM) is in retained accessory power (RAP) mode. The driver power window switch contains individual window switches for each of power windows. All windows may be controlled up and down from the driver power window switch. The individual passenger power window switches will only control the up and down operation of their respective power window.
Each power window contains a reversible power window motor. The direction the window travels is dependent upon the polarity of the supply voltage. By reversing polarity of the supply voltage the window motor will move up or down. Each power window motor is internally circuit breaker protected.
Battery voltage is supplied to the power window switch through the accessory voltage supply circuit. The power window switch also receives a constant ground source. The power window motor control circuits are connected to ground through the normally closed up and down contacts of the power window switch. When the power switch is placed in the down position, the power window motor down control circuit is switched to 12 volts and is applied to the down side of the power window motor. Since the other side of the power motor is connected to ground through the normally closed contacts of the up switch, the window travels down. By placing the power window switch in the up position, the polarity of the power window motor is reversed and the window travels up.

Reference Information

Schematic Reference Power Window Schematics
Connector End View Reference Power Door Systems Connector End Views
Description and Operation Power Windows Description and Operation
Electrical Information Reference

Circuit/System Verification

Ignition ON, command the appropriate door window UP and DOWN by pressing the appropriate Window switch. Observe the operation of the appropriate door window.

Circuit/System Testing

  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the B+ harness connector at the Driver Window Switch.
  2. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the ground circuit terminal D and ground.
  3. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the ground circuit for an open/high resistance.
  4. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the B+ circuit terminal E and ground.
  5. If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the B+ circuit for an open/high resistance. If the PWR WNDW fuse is open, test the circuit terminal C for a short to ground.
  6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the Driver Window Switch.
  7. Ignition OFF, connect the harness connector at the Driver Window Switch.
  8. Ignition OFF, disconnect the Passenger Window Switch.
  9. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the B+ circuit terminal and ground.
  10. ?X If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the B+ circuit for an open/high resistance.
  11. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal H and ground.
  12. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the Driver Window Switch
  13. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal D and ground.
  14. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the Driver Window switch
  15. Connect a test lamp between control circuit terminal H and control circuit terminal D.
  16. Ignition ON, command the passenger door window UP and DOWN by pressing the passenger window control on the Driver Window Switch. The test lamp should illuminate during either of the commands.
  17. ?X If the test lamp remains OFF, test for a short to ground or open/high resistance on either control circuit. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the Driver Window Switch.
  18. Ignition OFF, reconnect the Passenger Window Switch.
  19. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the appropriate Window Motor.
  20. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal A and ground.
  21. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the appropriate window switch.
  22. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm of resistance between the control circuit terminal B and ground.
  23. ?X If greater than the specified range, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, test or replace the appropriate window switch.
  24. Connect a test lamp between control circuit terminal A and control circuit terminal B.
  25. Ignition ON, command the appropriate window UP and DOWN by pressing the appropriate Window Switch. The test lamp should turn ON when commanding the UP and DOWN states.
  26. ?X If the test lamp remains OFF during either of the commands, test for a short to ground on either control circuit. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the appropriate Window Switch
  27. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the appropriate Window Motor.

Component Testing

    Driver Window Switch
  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the Driver Window switch.
  2. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals A and B and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the INACTIVE position.
  3. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the Driver Window switch.
  4. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal A and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the UP position.
  5. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  6. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal B and the B+ circuit terminal E with the passenger window switch in the DOWN position.
  7. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  8. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals F and H and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the INACTIVE position.
  9. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the Driver Window switch.
  10. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal F and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the UP position.
  11. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch.
  12. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal H and the B+ circuit terminal E with the driver window switch in the DOWN position.
  13. If greater than 2 ohms, replace the Driver Window switch
    Passenger Window Switch
  1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the Passenger Window switch.
  2. Test for infinite resistance between the signal terminals G and F and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the INACTIVE position.
  3. ?X If less than infinite resistance, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
  4. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal G and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the UP position.
  5. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
  6. Test for less than 2 ohms of resistance between the signal terminal F and the B+ circuit terminal with the switch in the DOWN position.
  7. ?X If greater than 2 ohms, replace the appropriate passenger Window switch.
      Window Motor
    1. Install a 30-amp fused jumper wire between the control terminal A and 12 volts. Momentarily install a jumper wire between the control terminal B and ground. The appropriate Window Motor should perform the UP or DOWN function.
    2. ?X If the function does not perform as specified, replace the appropriate Window Motor.
    3. Reverse the jumper wires; the appropriate Window Motor should perform the DOWN or UP function.
    4. ?X If the function does not perform as specified, replace the appropriate Window Motor

Mar 25, 2015 | 2006 Saturn ION

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I need the wiring schematics for driver door panel and all switches in a 2003 Chevy Tahoe. My window won't go down on that side and I'm sure I have a short somewhere because my switch works with all other...


You don't know what your getting into , The door switches have electronic control modules incorporated ,DDM- Driver door module an PDM passenger door module .
The power window system consists of the following components:
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Driver Door Module (DDM)


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Passenger Door Module (PDM)


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Body Control Module (BCM)


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RR power window switch


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Window up and window down relays in each of the rear passenger window switches


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Window lockout switch


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Reversible power window motors in each of the doors (circuit breaker protected)


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LT DOOR CB 25A (System power for left windows)


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RT DOOR CB 25A (System power for right windows)


The DDM contains four power window switches which are integral components. Closing any of the normally open, rocker type switches provides the DDM with a request for power window operation. The switches for the two front windows have three positions UP, Down and Express Down, while the switches for the rear windows have only two positions, UP and Down. Each of these switches and their positions is a direct input into the DDM. Upon receiving a request for power window operation, the DDM, transmits a Class 2 message indicating the switch and it's changed position.
The PDM contains a single power window switch that is an integral component. Closing of this normally open, rocker switch provides the PDM with a request for the front passenger power window operation. The switch for the front passenger window has two positions Up and Down. Each of these switch positions is a direct input to the PDM.
The two rear passenger doors have there own switches. Each of the switches contain a power window up and down relay. A switch activation alone can control the up and down functions of the rear windows. However the BCM, upon receiving a Class 2 message from the DDM, can control the set of relays which will activate the rear window motors.
You need a scan tool to diagnose these systems
Power Window Inoperative - Driver Door

1

Did you perform the Door Systems Diagnostic System Check?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Door Systems

2

Operate the driver power window in the UP and DOWN directions.
Does the driver power window operate properly?
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
Go to Step 3

3

  1. Install a scan tool.
  2. Monitor the driver window status data parameter in the driver door inputs list.
Does the driver window status data parameter display an active state?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 4

4

  1. Monitor the driver window status data parameter in the driver door module inputs list.
  2. Activate the driver power window switch in the up and down positions.
Does the driver window status data parameter change accordingly?
Go to Step 5
The data link connector (DLC) allows a scan tool to communicate with the class 2 serial data line. The serial data line is the means by which the microprocessor-controlled modules in the vehicle communicate with each other. Once the scan tool is connected to the class 2 serial data line through the DLC, the scan tool can be used to monitor each module for diagnostic purposes and to check for diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). Class 2 serial data is transmitted on a single wire at an average of 10.4 kbps.

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Mar 24, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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Every time i start my 98 buick regal ls my drivers window goes down


The only wiring schematic I could find for your car is for the 2000 Buick Regal, but I hope this helps,
since it gave me a reason why starting a car would cause the driver's power window to
go down, and no other window in the car - it has a special circuit component
(the "Express Down Module").

Its possible that the Express Down Module in the power window switch circuit has failed. This
module latches the "Express Down" switch in the "made" state until released by the "Express
Down Module." If the Express Down Module is latching the Express Down switch when it
shouldn't (at power-up) instead of when it should (at the window "down" limit), then the driver's
window would lower when the driver starts the car. The way to tell if this is the problem is to
note how fast the driver's windows goes down - if it goes down ALL THE WAY, then you know
that the "Express Down" circuit is involved (and therefore suspect the Express Down Module).
If the driver's window only lowers part of the way, then the Express Down circuit is exonerated.
See the various components of the driver's power window circuitry in the
2000 Buick Regal power window circuit schematic below.

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Apr 18, 2011 | 1998 Buick Regal

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I have a 06 trailblazer, and my drivers window will not go down. I had the motor cahnge it and is still not working. WE even took the switch out of the drivers door and connected it to the passenger door...


Are you aware of the fact that there are door modules ? Controlled electronically !
Power Window Inoperative - Driver Door
2
Operate the driver power window in the UP and DOWN directions.
Does the driver power window operate properly?
YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Install a scan tool.
Monitor the Driver Window Status Data parameter in the driver door inputs list.
Does the Driver Window Status Data parameter display an active state?
YES - Go to Step 11
NO - Go to Step 4
4
Monitor the Driver Window Status Data parameter in the driver door module (DDM) inputs list.
Activate the driver power window switch in the up and down positions.
Does the Driver Window Status Data parameter change accordingly?
YES - Go to Step 5
NO - Go to Step 11
5
Connect a test lamp to a good ground.
Backprobe the battery positive voltage circuit at connector C1 cavity D.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 6
NO - Go to Step 13
6
Disconnect the driver power window motor.
Connect a test lamp to a good ground.
Probe the power window motor up control circuit at the power window motor harness connector.
Activate the power window switch to the UP position.
Does the test illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 7
NO - Go to Step 9
7
With the test lamp still connected to a good ground, probe the power window motor down control circuit.
Activate the power window switch to the DOWN position.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 8
NO - Go to Step 10

You probably have a bad door module .

May 21, 2017 | Chevrolet TrailBlazer Cars & Trucks

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2003 Chevy Tahoe. Driver's side power window


check releys and wires in door jam 1 might be broken failing that u need a new switch

Jan 13, 2010 | 2003 Chevrolet Tahoe

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All windows but drivers won't go up or down 2001 GMC yukon


If they sound like they are trying to do something it's not the lock out switch . But to be sure pulling out the switch an testing for B+ voltage to and from the switch . Plus pull the other door switches to see if they have B+ voltage and good grounds would be the thing to do.. If you don't know how to check automotive electrical circuits your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop .
Passenger Power Window Operation
The passenger power window switches incorporate window up and down relays. The relay coil feed and supply sides are powered through the RAP fuse supply voltage circuit. The normally closed contacts of each relay is connected to ground. The load side of each of the relays are connected to either side of the power window motor through the power window up and down circuits. The up and down relay control circuits are connected to the normally closed contacts of the passenger window switch. These contacts are wired in series with the power window master switch, through the power window master switch up and down signal circuits and then to ground when the power window master is placed in the up or down position. This allows for the up and down operation of the passenger power window from the power window master switch. The center pole of the passenger power window switch is also connected to ground and will energize the relay when placed in the up or down position.

Driver Power Window Operation
The driver power window is unique from the passenger power windows in that it does not use window up and down relays. The driver power window is operated directly from the power window switch.
The normally closed contacts of the switch are connected to ground and the center pole is connected to the RAP fuse supply voltage circuit. By placing the left power window switch in the down position, voltage is applied to the power window motor left front down circuit and to the power window motor. The other side of the power window motor is connected to ground through the normally closed contacts of the left power window switch through the power window motor left front up circuit and drives the window down.
By placing the left power window switch in the up position the polarity of the motor is reversed and the motor drives the window up.

Has circuit breaker for B+ power
• PWR WDO CB 25A (fuse block) (System power for left and right windows 2-door vehicles. System power for LF and LR windows 4-door vehicles)
• PWR WDO CB 25A (IP wiring harness junction block) (System power for RF and RR windows 4-door vehicles)

Could be passenger door switch .

Aug 21, 2017 | 2001 GMC Yukon XL

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